Gregory's ServerLooks like Threads is inhospitable to journalists posting real time information about major international news stories.
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   @w7voa Wow, that's so wrongheaded I don't even know where to start. Wonder if that's an automated bot or an actual human. @mattblaze @w7voa hoping its a bot and they are taking a very aggressive approach by default since its easier to add exceptions rather than cover every possible bad actor? seems like they really missed the mark in testing though if that's the case.
also...why am i giving fbook the benefit of the doubt 🤦 @w7voa Coincidentally, I was at a screening the other day of Anna: Mother Russia, a forthcoming biopic about murdered Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. It features the (at least superficially) similar Dubrovka theatre attack, in which Politkovskaya played a role in negotiations.  @mattblaze A bot, I am sure, and a stupid one. It would have been clear to a human that this isn't praise for ISIS. @not2b @mattblaze a bot – or a human that's been told they have exactly eleven seconds to moderate each post, and took sixteen seconds for the last one...  Stupid people approved stupid bots, then put the stupid bots into a production environment.  I’d be more concerned if a human being said that violated their content policies. Not algorithms can be refined and adjusted. And hopefully, this one will. Neverthess, I was specifically answering the question @mattblaze posed.  @cjpaloma@mas.to What a lovely, thoughtful response to a rather innocuous comment indicating that something was likely not done based on a specific policy application. You can find somewhere else to grind that rather big ax on that giant chip on your shoulder. Buh-bye. 👋 I do have a giant ax to grind with mediocre folks spouting mediocre comments while billionaires destroy the world, ackshully, but I'm sure you'll block me instead... (edit) yup, they did - so predictable. @w7voa Looks like someone decide to take shortcut a by using poorly written automated filtering.  @JustTooOdd It's not really a shortcut if your entire business is predicated on the lowest possible labor costs and the highest possible return per user. Poorly written automated filtering for the win! @w7voa That's really bad. The algorithms have been very unpleasant this past week. I spent five days in Instagram purgatory after a post about indicted billionaire Miles Guo.  @w7voa People are afraid of threads being part of the fediverse. I am not afraid of that. The platform has some problems that are prior to that. The avoiding of news is among them. @Woodswalked @w7voa I dumped Threads within a week of checking it out. Owned by Meta, controlled by corporate executives is anathema to my expectations of social media. I read Facebook’s terms of service, never joined. Never had an interest in Threads, blocked them before they went ‘live’ here. Seems like federating with Meta will end up harming Mastodon’s ability to have journalists or content not to Meta’s liking. They have a history of doing this. cc: @w7voa   this will be an awesome policy from growing the number of independent servers hosted by news orgs when they fully federate, if they don't defederate from those servers for violating their local rules which is what their current federation policy seems to imply. just part of the learning process I hope. Totally expected. Billionaires don't want the media to exist, because they're tired of getting called out for behaving badly. So instead of changing their behavior, they just want to squash journalism.  @mjgardner @w7voa Being smugly snide at people who use social media you personally dislike is not a great look. @mattblaze @w7voa I *like* Threads (I’m @mjgardner@threads.net) but I have no illusions about it @mjgardner @w7voa @mattblaze I bet a lot of people (the same type who fawned over Bluesky the moment it appeared) did, though. @phl @mjgardner @w7voa Bluesky has much less scolding and prissy rules policing, however.  @w7voa incredible, it’s not a video of corpses or blood, it’s just sharing information. Can you appeal it? Journalists should stand in solidarity on this issue. Information with a screenshot of Arabic script. I'm wondering if all Arabic script triggers a ban?  @w7voa Interesting that no other media mention any specifics about the motives or justifications by ISIS GRU GS MoD RF for this attack. The "it targeted a large gathering of Christians" is new information for me, and possible this is what triggered automatic moderation action. @koteisaev @w7voa if Russians do false flag, why not use some Muslims from Russia who'd even claim they're real ISIS? Dagestan and Chechnia and Ingushetia are salafi jihadi resorts. Central Asia is mostly Sufis @Helgi It may depends on what groups they had at hand. Sounds like they had only that group ready to do something quickly. Whole this attack sounds also as try to distract Russians from activity of armed resistance in Belgorod and its surroundings. @koteisaev there's even worse attack just last morning with 150 or so missiles, one of them hit huge Dnipro dam that's been built with General Electric (because the GOP love Stalin!) and Russians went to distract the world from their atrocious terrorism. With more terrorism in Moscow @Helgi Kremlin love "multi-faceted operations" or "mnogokhodovochka". @koteisaev the big money! General Electrics and such companies got money, that Stalin earned by looting all grain in Ukraine and selling it, to Nazi Reich. And maybe the US has such "small government" those days they couldn't stop greedy bourgeosie from colluding with communist regimes @Helgi Today the GOP itself colludes - being effectively on putin hook and may be even recruited. @koteisaev I saw similar statement in a Jack London's story somewhere, maybe about Martin Eden. The GOP, the party of millionaires shills. Woodrow Wilson was also a fan of Ku Klux Clan but I think they started building it a bit later. The whole dam project is made by some US company so Ukraine now has a genuine US powerplant!  The thing is, not everyone knows. And a lot of people just don't care, so they join out of convenience and never seek out alternatives.  @lin11c @w7voa well I've always avoided all commercial ad-based platforms since ever, but people use them because other people they know are already there, or in some cases they are looking for reach. Once there, like boiling frogs, the gradual #enshittificaton is not yet so extreme that they feel they have to leave. Threads still has some way to go before it falls to Xitter standards, and there are still non-nazi users on Xitter. @marjolica @w7voa   @w7voa I wonder if a human mind was involved at all with this decision, with Zuckerbergs' cursed Hall of Mirrors we may never know.  What the hell? I don't understand what they're objecting to and why? They shouldn't be allowed here in my not so humble opinion @w7voa going to threads and pretending you're not on facebook is like going to sam's club and pretending you're not at walmart
 @w7voa sadly this is not new. They want 15 second cat videos not your actual real information. @w7voa Txitter is worse, most of the replies under the news about ISIS taking responsibility are Russian and Iranian trolls who claim it was CIA and the US created ISIS, then sometimes they blame Ukraine because Medvedev blamed Ukraine. But finally some dudes from Ingushetia, Russian citizens, landed as ISIS suspects @w7voa Gosh! Zuck platform behaves like the other Zuck platforms! Color me shocked!  @osma@mas.to per our discussion yesterday, Threads policies (especially combined with bad algorithmic moderation) ray does create an opportunity for alternatives!   So... Acknowledging that IS targeted Christians in a terrorist attack is celebrating them now?  Only good words about your content , what mercenary reason would have Threads not wanting news from TRUSTED sources to be broadcast? Mark Zuckerberg strikes again, this time at the fediverse and Mastodon.  @w7voa likely an automated script removing mentions of terrorist organisations on the bright side, maybe this will finally be the end of the idiotic tradition of journalists using social media to share information. The necessity of having social media accounts to access news is fucking ridiculous.  To be perfectly fair, if I was reporting on some issue and was nuked by Threads or Twitter I'd probably take that as a compliment.  @Steve Herman No wonder, Facebook did the same since a long time. Another reason to block threads.
@w7voa  @w7voa all the more reason why being able to follow across the fediverse is a good thing.  @w7voa What do you expect from a place where you have to "disable nazis" because they're on by default? EDIT: Whoops that was bluesky I got my corpo-cracker platforms mixed up. @w7voa  @w7voa Easy workaround: call the terror group PISSI, for Pseudo-Islamic State of Syria and Iraq. (Source: https://stallman.org/glossary.html.)  Meta/Facebook/Threads has a long tradition of doing moderation as cheaply as possible, with automated systems and very low staff-per-user ratios.  @w7voa Someone should post screen captures of transliterations of "Threads is wonderful" into Arabic, Farsi, Pashto, etc., to see if its software is blindly keying on anything using those languages or just specific words like "ISIS". I don't believe Threads pays any humans to vet content. But, if this content was removed by humans, that's more damning than using poorly designed software to do it. @w7voa It's their loss. I guess they don't like journalists who report on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Didn't they explicitly say they were downplaying news or something along those lines? I'm having trouble remembering where I saw this discussion. But the gist of it was that threads wanted to keep the focus away from politics and current events. I could be wrong. @w7voa Sad, but true. Wouldn't have expected anything else from Threads/Insta/Facebook/In-Q-Tel. 💩 @w7voa the social media is full of comments of people blaming Putin for the attacks (originated from Ukrainian government) and those who openly celebrating the death of innocent people in Moscow. It reminds me of the reactions to the terrorists attacks in Kerman, Iran a few months ago where the reactions were similar or even worse. the civilized people in the free world seems to have a love for terrorism when the victims are civilians in "enemy" nations.  @w7voa why is anybody still joining billionaire owned social media, they are not on our side, they are not trying to help us, they want to destroy every last bit of power we have so they can own the world...    |
@w7voa threads is inhospitable.
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