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pixx

@jimray ...though to be clear I still fully agree with what you're saying. I shoulda found a better way to word that :/

I also don't know how to highlight this contrast - which I think is super important! - _without_ demoralizing people away from making better choices.

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Arne Babenhauserheide

@pixx "the money guzzling world-destroyers are eating up 10% more than we expected, so we have to move faster than we planned to save civilization."

There’s always someone who gets paid to destroy the world, and there has always been.

(and no, killing them is *not* the answer!)
@jimray

pixx

@ArneBab @jimray Okay but that just sounds like you're talking to a buncha assassins lmao

Arne Babenhauserheide

@pixx oh, you’re right. That wasn’t intended … I think I should add a disclaimer … @jimray

pixx

@ArneBab @jimray okay but to respond to the edit: not even a _little_ bit of killing? 🥺

Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)

@pixx the way to highlight the contrast is to say that we all have to do everything we possibly can to decarbonize because this is a crisis and we have no time to lose, yet these aholes are making everything exponentially worse, they’re drilling holes in the lifeboat while you’re bailing water. They’re also the ones who set the original ship on fire. The answer isn’t to stop bailing—the answer is to take away their drill and toss them into the sea.

@jimray

pixx

@susankayequinn @jimray But then people will reasonably point out that you and I _cannot_ take away their drill; that's the whole reason it's so demoralizing. No matter what good we do, they will keep making the problem worse.

IMO the best phrasing I've seen so far was "the world-destroyers are acting quicker than expected, so we have to move faster than planned as well to save civilization"

Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)

@pixx We can (&have been) taking away drills collectively. Just because we haven't taken all the drills (&yes, the world-destroyers are acting quicker than expected) means we need to work to convince people that collective action IS possible. The narrative that this is impossible is part of the problem. It's not. We need narratives that show how power actually works in the world and how you effect change. That's a narrative the drillers desperately do not want you to hear.

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