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sortius

@gileri @jimray look at how electricity & heat is broken down ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissio

Residential energy use is 10%, livestock and manure 5.8%. These aren't tiny, but where energy is being wasted isn't in the home, and meat emissions are a flash in the pan comparatively. Transport and industrial/commercial energy use are where we need to look

Éric

@sortius @jimray

I'm not sure we read the same data. According to your link :

Transport is 12.6%, residential energy use (so mostly heat/AC, fridges) is 10.9%. Food is 18.4%, and most of it is livestock-related.

So food, house electricity and meat have a similar share of emissions, and total ~42% of total emissions. Reducing the impact of all three has a huge impact.

Also, meat/dairy surely have a great transport share compared to vegetal sources (feeding and refrigerated meat transport)

sortius

@gileri dude, if you're just going to misrepresent data I posted from THE SAME SITE you posted from, then there's no conversation to be had.

Manure and livestock (don't forget, manure is for crops) is not "most" of food.

You're chasing your own tail, and trying to be right when you know you're wrong. I meet people like you all the time. Eat some meat, enjoy life, you might be less of a cunt

Éric

@sortius

Livestock, agricultural soils, crop burning, deforestation, cropland, grassland are all used by livestock for dairy and meat. Non-dairy food sources does have similar uses, but they are a lot more efficient calorie or protein wise.

I'm not sure about how much manure is needed to sustain mostly plant-based agriculture, but it sure is a lot less than a meat-heavy one. Would love data about this.

I don't care much about being right, I care about being honest about my own impact.

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