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jimray

Marc Andreessen: “And another thing! We would’ve solved climate change in the 70s if the pesky environmentalists hadn’t killed nuclear power!”

Also Marc Andreessen: “I’m proud to announce we’re working with one of the most brutal, repressive, corrupt regimes in history to help them launder their oil money on a computer that uses ⅛ of the global electric supply to generate ransom notes.”

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Joe

@jimray , then and now mostly capitalism is the spanner in the spokes.

littletree

@jimray it it wasn't disgustingly true, there would be something to laugh at.

:vomit:

LisPi
@jimray @rysiek We had water and wind turbines in 1900.

> “I’m proud to announce we’re working with one of the most brutal, repressive, corrupt regimes in history to help them launder their oil money on a computer that uses ⅛ of the global electric supply to generate ransom notes.”

And this is basically why we didn't use them.

Not only was fossil fuels a technological trap, but its non-avoidance was forced into being by such regimes. It wasn't an organic thing.

I think we're all familiar with the solar/photovoltaic panel abduction and death threats story? Same pattern.
@jimray @rysiek We had water and wind turbines in 1900.

> “I’m proud to announce we’re working with one of the most brutal, repressive, corrupt regimes in history to help them launder their oil money on a computer that uses ⅛ of the global electric supply to generate ransom notes.”
Losfromcp

@jimray

Andreessen: “AI doesn’t want, it doesn’t have goals, it doesn’t want to kill you, because it’s not alive. AI is a machine—[it’s] not going to come alive any more than your toaster will. . . . AI is not a living being that has been primed by billions of years of evolution to participate in the battle for the survival of the fittest, as animals are, and as we are. It is math—code—computers.”

The AI might not kill us, but, as masters of #AI, Marc and his #Billionaire friends will.

Rasmus Lindegaard

@losfromcp @jimray yeah, its not so much the car i worry about, as the methed up idiot driving it

Losfromcp

@jimray Nicely stated!

Not trusting this scenario. The 99% of wealth from productivity improvements only goes upward.

"...Others foresee a golden age of drastically reduced work hours, a shockingly low cost of living, medical breakthroughs and life-span extensions, and the elimination of poverty. Which camp is most likely right?"

city-journal.org/article/somet

MatthewToad43

@losfromcp @jimray Once again, corporations are Skynet (or paperclip maximisers, or psychopaths, take your pick).

ehproque

@losfromcp @jimray shocked to see an AI billionaire say something true about it. Of course it's just to hide something else.

Nebulous Menace (Sandy B.)

@losfromcp @jimray As @cstross points out, corporations really ARE paperclip maximizers that end up taking the iron out of our blood to make paperclips.

Misuse Case

@jimray Personally I think if the AI bubble bursts soon but we get a massive nuclear power buildout because of it, that will be a silver lining. As long as the new nuclear generation isn’t as half-baked as the LLMs.

Daniel Taylor

@MisuseCase @jimray can't happen in the US, the lead time for a nuclear build is too long and the AI hypsters don't have enough pull to shorten it.

They'll end up running on solar+storage...

Moz

@RandomDamage @MisuseCase @jimray No-one has built civilian nuclear power at the speed we can build hydroelectric plants, let alone wind or solar. Solar and battery makes any speed comparison ridiculous. And that's before considering scale - even NuScale weren't talking about a reactor in every home.

Daniel Taylor

@moz @MisuseCase @jimray thought: what if they're just trying to signal that this isn't a fad and they'll be around long enough for the construction time of a nuclear plant?

I mean, it's totally a fad, and I expect it to take a couple of companies out, but maybe this is a way to pretend otherwise

Misuse Case

@RandomDamage @moz @jimray It’s probably a way to address concerns over how much electricity AI uses, since it has huge power demands.

But not really “address,” since “we’ll install our own nuclear plants to power it all” is bullshit like everything else Sam Altman says.

Moz

@RandomDamage @MisuseCase @jimray More likely it's the same virtue-signalling nonsense the far right in Australia are doing when they talk about it.

Specifically, change nothing now while we talk about eventually building nuclear power plants. The "do nothing now" is what matters, both to them and to everyone else.

feld
@RandomDamage @MisuseCase @jimray looks like nuclear is a total dead end now

Small reactor even more expensive than large, we need to look for something else.

https://cosmosmagazine.com/science/engineering/small-reactors-dont-add-up/
Matt Seymour

@jimray he’s a very smart and trustworthy man

DELETED

@jimray Imagine if we'd spent all the money we spent on nukes on a program to build out solar and wind.

Nemo

@jimray
Yeah, the nuclear power thing ain't wrong.

If by solving you mean "gained 10 years, and solved 15% of the issue"...

@cstross

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