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𝓼𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓹𝓪𝓽𝓱🍐【ツ】☮(📍🇬🇧)

@aral i agree and disagree.

agree in that proprietary tech, google, apple, as a condition to access is ridiculous.

i do think public funding can create open source alternatives, including hardware, which can be mandatory options for businesses to support if it is an access requirement to basic services or something.

Is is quite clear, that you cant access a lot of services without cash or letters, the telephone or motorized transport. ...and so on. that is tech too. time moves on

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Sven Slootweg

@serapath @aral While there can be legitimate reasons to require some sort of technology for government services, I do not think that "time moves on" is one of those reasons.

It's a values-neutral statement; if you accept that "time moves on" is in and of itself a good reason to mandate technology, then that also validates it as a reason to mandate *unwanted* technology.

The actual reasons for mandating technology must be precise, well-scoped, and strongly justified.

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@joepie91 @aral

yes. "time moves on" says nothing.
what i hope it would stand for is... that there is a reason for people to largly adopt tech. it is not just for the sake of it or because they are forced.

it is because, e.g. a washing machine makes life so much more convenient than washing cloth by hand and you will very rarely find anyone who is against washing machines.

now sometimes, new tech comes with downsides. amazon might be convenient, but side effect is central control by jeff

@joepie91 @aral

yes. "time moves on" says nothing.
what i hope it would stand for is... that there is a reason for people to largly adopt tech. it is not just for the sake of it or because they are forced.

it is because, e.g. a washing machine makes life so much more convenient than washing cloth by hand and you will very rarely find anyone who is against washing machines.

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@joepie91 @aral

i do think tech is massively adopted mostly because ppl love the upsides, that includes apple or google pay experience... but it doesnt mean there cant be alternatives without the downsides ...now if a market adopts a new tech in ways that excludes open alternatives, then laws should support and maybe enforce markets to make room for open alternatives... but forcing businesses and industries to always support fax machines will drown progress in enforced technical debt

Reina :maybe_verified:

@serapath @aral My phone stopped working recently and I was without proper access to stuff for a while until I was able to get a new one. I think progressive enhancement is very much necessary. It's easy to say tech good until you're without it. Doesn't even have to be about the monopolisation of Google and Apple. Redundancy is good.

Actually, that is a half-truth. I had redundancy. But in a world where a smartphone is the only way to access shit, I'd be lost.

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@Reina @aral

i very much agree.
i am scared "to death" (maybe not that much, but...) ...of ever losing my phone, because all my stuff is coupled to it.

now imagine:
1. a simple phrase memorized by me, could be put into any device anywhere (even temporarily) to get access to all my data & apps temporarily and then deleting it again.

...if i lose my phone, i could grt a new device or even borrow someones to help me out.

tech coupd do it, but current tech and vendor lock ins prevent it.

@Reina @aral

i very much agree.
i am scared "to death" (maybe not that much, but...) ...of ever losing my phone, because all my stuff is coupled to it.

now imagine:
1. a simple phrase memorized by me, could be put into any device anywhere (even temporarily) to get access to all my data & apps temporarily and then deleting it again.

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@Reina @aral

this world is not science fiction. the tech exists, but it exists in alternative fringes of society, not in mainstream businesses

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