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Nonya Bidniss šŸ„„šŸŒ“

@lrvick Terrible. I'm seeing more and more health providers and other businesses trying really hard to get people to install & use apps and I just won't do it. šŸ¤¬ @BenAveling @Jennifer

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Killick

@Nonya_Bidniss @lrvick @BenAveling @Jennifer

My health insurer keeps nagging me to visit their portal for reasons. No.

Maggie Maybe

@killick @Nonya_Bidniss @lrvick @BenAveling @Jennifer I swear pain management purposely ignored and messed up every voicemail I left for six months to force me to use their stupid Klarna app. The benefit is that when they mess up my messages I can show the provider screenshots of what I said to show that thereā€™s no reason an error should have been made.

But I only install it when I need to send them a message and then I uninstall it immediately after completing the communication. Because they were making so many errors I donā€™t mind having things in writing. But if I didnā€™t have a smart phone I wouldnā€™t be able to deal with them because they canā€™t handle anything over the phone. And we donā€™t have a lot of options for pain management practices around here.

@killick @Nonya_Bidniss @lrvick @BenAveling @Jennifer I swear pain management purposely ignored and messed up every voicemail I left for six months to force me to use their stupid Klarna app. The benefit is that when they mess up my messages I can show the provider screenshots of what I said to show that thereā€™s no reason an error should have been made.

Billy Smith

@Nonya_Bidniss @lrvick @BenAveling @Jennifer

It's also worth remembering that most of the mobile apps are just a html/web interface which uses a click-agreement wrap-around, so they can't be legally reverse-engineered, so security through obscurity.

The bonus for the service providers is that they can require the mandated use of arbitration rather than the courts through any changes in the ToS agreements.

Don't agree, and you don't get to use the service.

Janet Vertesi

@BillySmith @Nonya_Bidniss @lrvick @BenAveling @Jennifer

This is a big point that @pluralistic is often on about, that these ā€œappsā€ are merely HTML wrappers that allow them to evade standard security, ToS, etc. I am glad you called Bs on this!

Billy Smith

@cyberlyra @Nonya_Bidniss @lrvick @BenAveling @Jennifer @pluralistic

They're using the DMCA legislation in exactly the way that was warned about when the DMCA laws were being written.

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