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Odoben

My method for creating fictional world maps:
1) go for a walk after rain
2) take photos of drying spots on the sidewalk
3) draw over them ✨ :blobfoxfloofreach:

#worldbuilding #worldbuildingart #cartography #fictionalmaps

Photo I took of the surface of a wet sidewalk that has dry spots in it and a second image that's the same photo but with the edges of the spots outlined.
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Takiro 🎨

@odoben Patterns in marble also work pretty great.

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@odoben

I love the way creative people think.

Sominemo

@odoben The way you worded this made me remember the meme 🤭

"Ordinary people vs Creative people".

Under ordinary people, there's a person looking down at a chicken in oven.

Under creative people, a person is looking at a similar chicken through the glass, but it's cooked by a dragon breathing fire onto it.
OddOpinions5

@odoben

amazing how often in every sphere of life, there are some really simple elegant solutions but it takes so much time and effort and pain to find them

I speak as a PhD who works on DNA sequencing

Cavyherd

@failedLyndonLaRouchite @odoben

And also blindingly obvious—once you've noticed them.

Not *directly* related, but somebody (Clarke? Asimov? Sagan? Adams?) once pointed out that every breakthrough in science starts with somebody walking past a thing they've seen a thousand times before, pausing, looking closer, & thinking, "Hm. That's odd—"

Cavyherd

@daico @failedLyndonLaRouchite @odoben

Yes, that sounds right. I'm always charry of specific attribution, though, due to the whole [Wrong famous person quoted as saying plausible Clever Thing] thing. (Seriously, there's gotta be a word for this.)

@MiBro54517

@odoben
I discovered this digital map generator just a few days ago: azgaar.github.io/Fantasy-Map-G

But I love the idea of painting over photos 🤩

teefax

@odoben Sort of continents on a foreign planet. Could it be earth 2.0? How is the climate spreaded?

Jorge Candeias

@odoben :)

I once did the same with an old peeling wall.

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@odoben

I did this with pizza dough stuck to the oven base circle you get a free globe shape then hehe

A. No, née: Moose

@odoben Look out for fresh tree stumps. Fungi can create marvelous fictional maps in wood.

Juho Mäntysalo

@odoben

Works for regional maps, but for world maps things like world's origin myth should show up in the landscape. Not necessarily tectonic shifts, ice age's signs, or continental drift (a fantasy world can do without), but stuff like where the gods fought, where a mountain was dropped on the undeserving, from where was the landscape redecorated to suit the whims of a mad god etc.

Margret Kuarell

@odoben great idea nathan pyle had several years ago

GLC

@odoben

This sounds to me like a mathematical conjecture.
With a certain plausibility to it.

Jan Bosch

@odoben you're doing Slartibartfast out of a job. For shame.

palenque laser codes

@odoben @firefly one that I've used in the past and quite liked was coffee foam on the sides of cups

wavesculptor

@beka_valentine @odoben @firefly

The*actual* coffee foam might work for my suggestion about adding a weather satellite layer.

Zuri (he/him) 🕐 CET

@odoben Butterfly effect universe Pangaea development

MostlyTato

@odoben
I've noted something similar: pour a small amount of water on a flat surface and photograph the results.
Its a valid representation of fluid dynamics, though ofc geology would come into play to (ie. a non-flat surface).
Your method is better though.

exu0

@odoben there's a pair of giant ships in the ocean!

korin

@odoben another ridiculously effective technique is just to drop any kind of powder on a table

wavesculptor

@odoben

Next, run a bathtub with some kids foam-bath; let it settle to a thin layer, give the surface a stir and make a short movie from 30cm above. Add as a transparent layer to your map image and what do you have?

A weather satellite sequence.

It'd probably work with a beer and a macro lens too.

skze :nonbinary_flag:

@odoben my problem with this (or any other method for that matter) is map projections. the proportions are all wrong and how will i ever know how big the continents are if they are all the wrong size so i just do without the maps because i would lose my entire mind

Cavyherd

@skye @odoben

"Rabbit hole" is an entirely inadequate metaphor to truly convey the hazards of that class of problem.

FWIW, my solution would be to assume Mercator, adjust the frame until it "looks right," and move on. But this is not the focus of my particular nerdery, so I definitely see where the problem would lie.

#ADHD FTW

skze :nonbinary_flag:

@cavyherd @odoben but with mercator i would have to do so much math in order to figure out how big everything actually is, you know? like the point of having a map is i can measure travel distances, sizes of countries etc. but if i don’t have a globe so that i can actually measure these things then i have to do math! and i don’t want to do math! so i just don’t do it at all because if i handwave the whole thing entirely then i won’t get the problem with wanting everything to be mathematically accurate

Cavyherd

@skye @odoben

Whereas I would print a scan of my map onto a sheet of paper, coat the printed side with transparent acrylic medium (gloss, to be clear*), wash the paper off leaving the clear printed image, & then stretch the result over an appropriately sized sphere. (Might have to cut darts at the poles to make it work properly.)

But, yes, I could definitely see myself disappearing into my belly-button on the math challenge. If I could math 😉

* heh. Pun not intended, but I'll go with it 😊

Jeremy List

@cavyherd @skye @odoben can confirm: have been down a very similar rabbit hole after finding a plate tectonic simulator (the resulting project hasn't been touched in over a year because I'm just down too many rabbit holes)

E.T.Smith

@odoben @beka_valentine One of my favorite maps started from rings left on a table by dirty breakfast dishes

Cavyherd

@odoben

I'd be willing to bet that there are Actual Laws Of Physics to explain why the result is so plausible. (Which, tbc are well beyond my expertise. But I'll bet some bright soul out there could explain it.)

#cartography #science #geology #geophysics #fractals

Marco van Burgsteden

@cavyherd @odoben Probably something with fractals and tiny surface irregularities. According to my son, earth is a sphere smoother than a snooker ball, and even here the effect of unevenness is visible. But indeed, a nice approach.

Cavyherd

@Marrekoo @odoben

I suspect there may also be something in there about reaction diffusion & scales of homogeneity, but yes, definitely.

Cavyherd

@odoben

Do you include the boots in your map Y/N <g,d&r>

Professor_Stevens

@odoben

Yours is a lot better, but here's my version done quick-and-dirty in a photo processor:

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@odoben More accessible than the snowmelt one, though if someone is looking for 3D representation, the snowmelt version has added benefits.

It's nice when nature provides a solution to something, even something as trivial as fantasy.

Mad A. Argon :qurio:

@odoben I usually look for original creatures in random wet spots, patterns on wood etc.

binarymelon

@odoben
City council or Public Works will sue for IP theft.
@SirTapTap

Luchuco Cadáver

@odoben 4) imagine a story that happens there and tell it to your children

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@odoben as a geomorphologist and geographer, I thinks this might be the most realistic fictional landform creation method I've seen yet.

rowan {chaosfem node}

@DivineKestrel geomorphologist? fuck me, did you steal my disused geology degree?

void *ada;

@odoben@meow.social I wonder how accurate this would be for erosion and natural climate development because it is, well, natural drying cycles.

Kee Hinckley

@odoben @grrrr_shark Somewhere a geologist is turning over in their grave. :)

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@odoben "over there are The Feet. we don't go to The Feet. no one who has went has ever returned"

Orz

@odoben Ha, I took some pictures of some snow and ice a couple of weeks ago for this exact purpose!

Maybe I need to really draw some maps.

Aleksei � Matiushkin

@odoben and that’s exactly how Rorschach invented his tests.

ets

@odoben 'Grease stains on the inside of pizza boxes' is also a good option.

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