@neil I listen to a lot of tech men on podcasts, in all honesty they live in such a different reality to me, they’re genuinely gassed about their own sense of right and what’s cool.

I don’t think they’ve ever met the likes of me or others at the end of their products.

That said, they have employees who have close encounters with reality. Would be great if they said ‘oi boss, that idea you just had is actually quite shit y’no, when you think about it for a minute”.