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elilla&, tactical travesti

what the hell is this product lmao

so my babe saw this and thought "healthy leaves! I want to spoil my plants!" luckily they looked it up online before spraying anything. this is worse than a scam, it looks like an Onion article about coloniser gardening. I have no idea what to do with this thing now, my best idea is to pair it with a lighter as a weapon agains nazis

(translated transcription of choice parts of the fine print below in thread)

*edit*: on the label are just the propellants, ingredients not listed that are responsible for the actual oil:

- Alkane (C11-12-Iso- )
- Mineral oil (petroleum)
- Petroleum solvents, with dewaxed paraffin

yeah you're just dousing your plant in fuels basically

A spray can: "Compo Leaf Shine! Special formula for healthy, dust-free leaves with a shine that lasts!" It shows large leaves of houseplants like Monstera deliciosa and anthurium, with an almost plastic shine to it.
The special formula: Butane, propane, isobutane, isopropanol.
22 February at 9:10 | Open on transmom.love
15 comments
Michaela

@elilla is this just a mixture of highly flammable gases o_O?

22 February at 9:13 | Open on toot.lgbt
elilla&, tactical travesti

@michaela_p I'm thinking these are just the propellants and there's more products that are not listed.

22 February at 9:24 | Open on transmom.love
elilla&, tactical travesti

@michaela_p found the datasheet. the secret ingredients are rock oil and paraffin

22 February at 9:30 | Open on transmom.love
Kinky little cow

@elilla @michaela_p Having had to work on this specifically during my studies, oil and paraffin are used to kill insects in a physical way (rather than chemical, if that makes sense). So it's mostly just a bug-killing product that may make your plant leaves shine but I'm really not sure it's a good idea since one of the drawback we had to study is the impact on leaves. It seems not too bad but it's definitely not good (esp. in term of burns linked to sun).

22 February at 9:36 | Open on social.mochi.academy
Kinky little cow

@elilla @michaela_p In a way, it's less dangerous for the environment because paraffin [edit : i studied paraffin and not other oil and i didn't consider what other mineral oils they have mixed with it] don't really create much of a risk compared to more traditional products to kill bugs. On the other side though, I doubt you wanna kill the bugs you took time to have come to your garden. And also in terms of where it comes from, Total Energies was the company asking me to study this product for them so yeah, there's that too (basically they wanted to find use for some of their oil refinement byproducts).

@elilla @michaela_p In a way, it's less dangerous for the environment because paraffin [edit : i studied paraffin and not other oil and i didn't consider what other mineral oils they have mixed with it] don't really create much of a risk compared to more traditional products to kill bugs. On the other side though, I doubt you wanna kill the bugs you took time to have come to your garden. And also in terms of where it comes from, Total Energies was the company asking me to study this product for them...

22 February at 9:39 | Open on social.mochi.academy
Kinky little cow

@elilla @michaela_p So it's not such an awful product in terms of dangerosity for your plants if not in direct sunlight, and it's mostly harmful to bugs it's sprayed on and who could come in contact with it soon after. It cannot help them be healthier by bringing them anything they might need though.

22 February at 9:43 | Open on social.mochi.academy
Michaela
elilla&, tactical travesti

@Morrigane @michaela_p it's not advertised as a bug killer though, it's advertised as a leaf shiner that will make them healthy and dust-free. this statement is a lie. using this thing on your plants will have no effect if you're lucky, and damage them if you aren't.

and in any case killing bugs is bad for plants, especially because it will also kill bacteria and fungi and protozoa and microarthropods (it has propan-2-ol in it), including all symbionts which are an integral part of the phytosphere and, indirectly over time, also the rhizosphere as a lateral casualty. periodically spraying your plants with disinfectant means periodically nuking the microbial ecosystem into near zero, opening space for harmful colonisation by whatever bacteria finds itself alone now that all the predators and competitors for nutrients are dead.

even if this isn't as dangerous a biocide as neonics, I can't imagine having clogging oil dripping down tiny living beings and accumulating can have any positive impacts in microbiology.

@Morrigane @michaela_p it's not advertised as a bug killer though, it's advertised as a leaf shiner that will make them healthy and dust-free. this statement is a lie. using this thing on your plants will have no effect if you're lucky, and damage them if you aren't.

and in any case killing bugs is bad for plants, especially because it will also kill bacteria and fungi and protozoa and microarthropods (it has propan-2-ol in it), including all symbionts which are an integral part of the phytosphere...

22 February at 9:58 | Open on transmom.love
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@elilla when you wanted to get plastic plants but accidentally got real ones :blob_cat_ohnoes:

22 February at 9:16 | Open on gts.u8.is
elilla&, tactical travesti

Use on plants with flat laves, except soft ones like ferns or hard ones like succulents. Do not spray under leaves. Do not let it run on the leaf stems and axils. Use once per month. Do not spray under sunlight. Do not use on flowers. Do not use on young plants. Do not wrap up plants right after using. Do not let the mist stay on furniture, walls or floors. Extremely flammable. May burst into flames when warmed. May be harmful to water organisms, with long-duration effects. Protect from heat, warm surfaces, sparks, flames, and firestarters. Protect from sunlight. Dispose of can on a recognised disposal service. Keep between 5°C and 35°C. Do not overdose

Use on plants with flat laves, except soft ones like ferns or hard ones like succulents. Do not spray under leaves. Do not let it run on the leaf stems and axils. Use once per month. Do not spray under sunlight. Do not use on flowers. Do not use on young plants. Do not wrap up plants right after using. Do not let the mist stay on furniture, walls or floors. Extremely flammable. May burst into flames when warmed. May be harmful to water organisms, with long-duration effects. Protect from heat, warm...

22 February at 9:22 | Open on transmom.love
Embers :ms_transgender_flag:​ :Blobhaj_Ghostie_Alive:​

@elilla they might as well just say to never use it

22 February at 9:41 | Open on blobfox.coffee
Erica Briony.
elilla&, tactical travesti

what this thing will actually do:

- make your leaves shiny and chrome!! witness them!!!
- prevent dust which might sometimes clog the stomata
- instead clog the stomata with 100% certainty, with literal petroleum and candleswax
- (which is why it says not to use in the underleaf)
- (which means when they say "prevent dust clogging pores", it's an outright lie)
- (also this thing will flat out kill your water plants, which have stomata on the top surface, and severely damage amphistomatous ones like some annual herbs and woody shrubs)
- kill all the microbial life in your plants and whichever parts of the soil it touches (for those new here: microbial life is necessary for plant nutrition and indispensable for their health)
- reduce how much light (=food) your plants can get, by reflecting it (the shinier it is, the more light it's wasting)
- permanently pollute the soil with runoff, affecting its microbial life long-term (what the label says will happen to water life, but fails to even consider soil life)
- destroy the planet while you garden by literally spraying fossil fuels into the air.

the claims of "healthy leaves" here are downright false advertising.

#gardening #Naturgarten #wildGarden

what this thing will actually do:

- make your leaves shiny and chrome!! witness them!!!
- prevent dust which might sometimes clog the stomata
- instead clog the stomata with 100% certainty, with literal petroleum and candleswax
- (which is why it says not to use in the underleaf)
- (which means when they say "prevent dust clogging pores", it's an outright lie)
- (also this thing will flat out kill your water plants, which have stomata on the top surface, and severely damage amphistomatous ones like...

22 February at 9:43 | Open on transmom.love
Clara Listensprechen
@elilla Spray it on your door hinges to fix squeaks. Or use it as a furniture polish.
22 February at 19:35 | Open on friendica.myportal.social
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