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panopticon

@dgavin @aral Well, Picasso didnt take Jobs from his Co-Artists...

Metafrastis

@panopticon @aral Of course he did. He is probably single-handedly responsible for many, many artists who lost their job because they couldn’t adapt to the new art styles Picasso created by taking their art and changing it.

panopticon

@dgavin @panopticon @aral I never heard of this. But it is hard to quantize "Lost Opportunity".
Im not a fan of copyright in the first place, but if they steal anyway, they should at least steal from the right people.

Aral Balkan

@dgavin Funny, I hadn’t realised trillion-dollar corporations were artists. Then again, I guess it’s called being a con artist for a reason.

Metafrastis

@aral since the 17th century "artists" is used for "one skilled in any art or craft" (including professors, surgeons, craftsmen, cooks).
I‘d argue that software engineers are artists too. AI models are not created by some abstract "trillion dollar companies" but by humans. Your class struggle rethoric is undercomplex and not helpful here (and I‘m saying this as a left social democrat).

Aral Balkan

@dgavin Undercomplex – is that anything like simple? Because trillion-dollar corporations and billionaires doing whatever they like with the labour of others is a very simple concept and that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Metafrastis

@aral 1st no plural: there is only one trillion dollar company in the world profiting from AI trained on stolen IP: Microsoft. And I dislike them as much as anyone else.
And 2nd: "Let him among you who is without sin be the first to send a stone at her." Did you use Napster? Cracked versions of software? NES emulators? I know I did, so I’m careful condemning others doing the same. Progress - especially in new tech fields - sometimes depends on privacy.

Demon Queen Lucretia
@dgavin @aral the machine is not an artist, therefore it cannot benefit from this cheeky adage.
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