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Stefan Bohacek

Alright, what is the #fediverse?

"Social networks that..."

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Natively support ActivityPub
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Support other common protocols
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May use a third party bridge
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Not sure
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Voting ended 18 February at 15:32.
14 comments
Stefan Bohacek

For the sake of simplicity, "other common protocols" refers to protocols used by at least one other network.

Stefan Bohacek

@kevin I guess I should've phrased it as "what's the minimum requirement".

David Megginson

@stefan It depends on the article.

"The" #fediverse is where we're talking now, a specific network of social-media sites that share not only a common protocol (#ActivityPub) but, more-importantly, a common core set of community goals, standards of behaviour, and moderation practices.

But just as there might be parallel universes, there can be parallel fediverses built around different goals, behaviour, and even protocols. In that case, you might talk about "a" fediverse.

Amgine

@david_megginson @stefan

I would strongly disagree regarding the shared core goals.

#ActivitPub undergirds Gab, TruthSocial, Threads, and those are just a small number of the forks/feature-comparable Mastodon-like platforms. They share almost none of the goals, but are opportunistic and support reusing infrastructure others build & maintain for their own purposes, w/o contributing upstream.

David Megginson

@amgine Agreed, and I wouldn't count those as part of the fediverse, just parallel social networks that happen to use some of the same architecture or standards.

Amgine

@david_megginson No, they are here. Your toots are likely visible there. Only your instance’s #administrators and #moderators are protecting you from the worst things they are doing.

I hope you are kind to and thank your #admin / #mods often. It reminds me, I have not done so recently enough.

David Megginson

@amgine wrote

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I hope you are kind to and thank your #admin / #mods often.

I do, and I send a monthly donation to my social-media site equal to the cost of a Netflix subscription.

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Only your instance’s #administrators and #moderators are protecting you from the worst things they are doing.

Yes, it's true that my posts are public and that each site can choose who to federate with, but I do believe there's a core consensus — going beyond protocols — that excludes the worst actors.

Amgine

@david_megginson

I definitely agree there is a consensus that instances can decide with whom they directly federate, and users should have control of their feeds, communities should have guidance on who may be a member, and decide what appropriate behaviour is for their community.

But there is no consensus I am aware of on what constitutes bad actions or who is a bad actor.

jrunyon
@stefan anyone you can reach through the fediverse is on the fediverse by definition. So... yeah. Anything that is interoperable with "social networks that natively support ActivityPub" - including "social networks that may use a third party bridge"
realcaseyrollins

@stefan I think it’s anything that supports two-way communication over #ActivityPub. It may use a bridge, but not all bridges do that.

Yours Truly!

@stefan

Fe ... Iron
Diverse ... strength in allies

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