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Dr. jonny phd

You wont believe the number of stormtroopers theyre deploying against unarmed students unless you see it. This is just one side: at least 7 police departments with at least two layers at every point of egress, with several layers in back for rear control and rotation. They've got the army out against your kids for having the audacity to do whatever they can to stop a genocide

#UCIrvine

Dr. jonny phd

everyone i have figured it out, cats just have unchecked integer operations

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ralph_himself

@jonny my OCD is kicking hard: the chart should only go to +127, not +128.

Thinks Deer Are Cool

@jonny ...okay but in my experience this is close to literally true, they bite when they start getting sensory/emotional overload

Dr. jonny phd

Helping someone debug something, said they asked chatgpt about what a series of bit shift operations were doing. He thought it was actually evaluating the code, yno like it presents itself as doing. Instead its example was a) not the code he put in, with b) incorrect annotations, and c) even more incorrect sample outputs. Has been doing this all day and had just started considering maybe chatGPT was wrong.

I was like first of all never do that again, and explained how chatGPT wasnt doing anything like what he thought it was doing. We spent 2 minutes isolating that code, printing out the bit string after each operation, and he immediately understood what was going on.

I fucking hate these LLMs. Empowerment is learning how to figure things out, how to make tools for yourself and how to debug problems. These things are worse than disempowering, teaching people to be dependent on something that teaches them bullshit.

Edit: too many ppl reading this as "this person bad at programming" - not what I meant. Criticism is of deceptive presentation of LLMs.

Helping someone debug something, said they asked chatgpt about what a series of bit shift operations were doing. He thought it was actually evaluating the code, yno like it presents itself as doing. Instead its example was a) not the code he put in, with b) incorrect annotations, and c) even more incorrect sample outputs. Has been doing this all day and had just started considering maybe chatGPT was wrong.

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AdeptVeritatis

@jonny

Thanks for your post and a special thank for calling out the gatekeeping (in the edit).

Androcat

@jonny I hate these LLMs, and I hate the in-industry hypemonkeys that lend their clout to the absurd misconception that LLMs are any kind of intelligence, or that they are actually doing anythign else than autocorrect applied at scale.

Trip

@jonny My evaluation has ultimately been that the fundamental problem with these LLMs, at least in terms of the output the give, is that they are designed to give a satisfying answer to whatever is posed to them, even if they can't. So rather than say "I can't answer that" it will instead just invent something that sounds good. Because it may not know the answer, but it damn well knows what an answer *looks like*, and appearing to answer is preferable to giving a disappointing result.

Dr. jonny phd

Hey any journalists on here plz turn your public post indexing on, because most of you haven't and thats why people looking for public information cant find you.

Go to settings > public profile > privacy and reach, select "include public posts in search results"

Not all the fedi wants to be a public space, and thats fine, but some parts should be right now.

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Brandon Starr

@jonny Thanks for the info! I'm not a journalist but didn't realize that was not on by default. Going to my podcast accounts and updating those, too!

IoT is the grey goo

@jonny Good advice.

Unfortunately, discoverability w #Mastodon servers is so bad that you can click on a users busy profile and it may appear empty "for reasons". This happens a lot.

And there's nothing to suggest new people to follow based on existing activity and follows.

This paradigm hasn't even figured out a decent way to provide URL links to content. I still end up on other M. websites (where I don't reside) when I click on links to toots. How does a news website even cope with that, when they consider adding "share on fedi" icons to their own pages?

@jonny Good advice.

Unfortunately, discoverability w #Mastodon servers is so bad that you can click on a users busy profile and it may appear empty "for reasons". This happens a lot.

And there's nothing to suggest new people to follow based on existing activity and follows.

This paradigm hasn't even figured out a decent way to provide URL links to content. I still end up on other M. websites (where I don't reside) when I click on links to toots. How does a news website even cope with that, when they...

Dr. jonny phd

I think in the future if I am ever writing a code paper I am just going to take the list of contributors and copy paste that into the authors list with links to a git blame (with consent). If we're going to have a credit assignment system as broken as authorship, we can at least err on the "include everyone" side of the brokenness - I want the person who submits a PR to fix a typo in the docs to get credit for helping. People being incentivized to make lots of little contributions is good, actually.

It should be the same way with regular papers too - put your lab techs and undergrads on the paper! Put on the grad student/postdoc who isnt explicitly assigned to this project but ends up helping out anyway. Its literally free! Authorship inflation is a made up problem thats not even a problem!

I think in the future if I am ever writing a code paper I am just going to take the list of contributors and copy paste that into the authors list with links to a git blame (with consent). If we're going to have a credit assignment system as broken as authorship, we can at least err on the "include everyone" side of the brokenness - I want the person who submits a PR to fix a typo in the docs to get credit for helping. People being incentivized to make lots of little contributions is good, actually.

extreme organic gay

@jonny this is good, but it might be easier just to take your name off the paper if you're going to be a lazy fuck 😂​

Dr. Robert M Flight

@jonny I've seen a couple of people do this previously, if I remember C. Titus Brown did so, and took a lot of flack from some corners for it at the time. I'd hope that attitudes have changed, especially around software. But yeah, in general we need to be more open about offering authorship for any kind of contribution to the project.

Stephan Saalfeld

@jonny 100% to the general sentiment, but like every lazy system, this incentivizes unwanted behavior, i.e. to maximize coauthorship through mundane contributions that perfectly follow protocol.

Dr. jonny phd

Academics: stop being coy about #SciHub and start treating it like basic research infrastructure. If you dont include it in your syllabus already as a normal way to access research, you should start. No more winks and nods, just link directly to it and accept no criticism for doing so from the researchers that necessitate its continued existence by their publishing practices

mastodon.social/@eff/111075817

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Kate Nyhan

@jonny
Would you say that the category "researchers that necessitate its continued existence by their publishing practices" includes
- people who publish paywalled papers in journals that don't allow green OA, on the reasoning that everyone can just use SciHub to read them
- people who published in paywalled journals that allow self-archiving, but don't bother to do it

Julio J. 🀲

@jonny talking of which, I just released @scihub , a bot that posts the latest working domains for #SciHub

hachyderm.io/@j3j5/11108732599

Tobin Baker

@jonny Sadly, if the new Cold War ever ends, sci-hub will probably cease to exist.

Dr. jonny phd

tip for new fedis: the way the fediverse works is there is a chipmunk that comes by and puts all the posts in his mouth and goes and stashes them in his tree and only some of them hatch but that is the cost of federation

Dr. jonny phd

The #LLMs aren't just weird text generators, and when these companies talk to investors they don't talk about whether they're sentient or not. They talk about "understanding intent" as a synonym for matching search queries to ads. They're parsing your email and calendar and docs and matching them to entities in their knowledge graph to predict your likelihood of clicking an ad. They don't talk about generated text as thought, it's to optimize ad content and give better clickthrough rates to advertisers who pay to embed in the answers of "LLM-type experiences"
abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/20

The #LLMs aren't just weird text generators, and when these companies talk to investors they don't talk about whether they're sentient or not. They talk about "understanding intent" as a synonym for matching search queries to ads. They're parsing your email and calendar and docs and matching them to entities in their knowledge graph to predict your likelihood of clicking an ad. They don't talk about generated text as thought, it's to optimize ad content and give better clickthrough rates to advertisers...

Dr. jonny phd

I'm not saying LLMs are magic and can do all the things they promise to investors, I'm saying these companies don't care about whether the bots can think. they won't work and that's worse: what they certainly will do is deepen the logic of surveillance that drives their application in advertising and provide a lot of flimsy, bias ridden, nonfunctional LLMs as platforms to data consumers like governments, cops, and insurance companies to make use of surveillance data under the cloak of LLM datawashing.

Dr. jonny phd

apparently you can check where the browser window is relative to the screen that it's on, so I had this very cursed idea and that is to make a webpage that has a fixed position on your screen (rather than in the browser window) and the browser window is like a magnifying glass that you have to decrease the size of to bring the page in focus, and then you have to move the window around to find the different sections of the page like a point and click adventure.

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