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Devil Lu Linvega

LOOK MOM I AM PROGRAMMING WITH PALM PILOT GRAFFITI

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BartGo

@neauoire my favourite use of Graffiti was in Z machine based text games, on Palm III -- it felt just right not to type but to write with the stylus, it fits perfectly into the book/diary logic of text games

Ashley Lanese

@neauoire hi! I found you in the mermaid hashtag! I’m writing a #mermaid book series! If your interested you should follow me! I’ll follow back! 👩🏻‍💻🧜‍♀️💬📚

ThaCuber

@neauoire IMO that looks slower than typing it all out, but it's still pretty cool

Devil Lu Linvega

Still poking at a tablet pen input method. It's starting to feel really nice. Writing 'e' and 'o' still trips me apparently XD.

I was tired of having to toggle modes, so I've removed the toggle and split the interface into three sections(uppercase, lowercase, symbols) so I can draw direction in the mode I need!

git.sr.ht/~rabbits/grail

radioactive isosoph

@neauoire just made me think, what is happening with potato, is it just being deprecated or salvaged into parts for porporo?

Luci ‘O Lantern

@neauoire a tiny bit of history, aligned to both this tablet stuff and the data flow stuff… the rand corporation created a system called GRAIL that was a data flow visual programming language whose primary input method was tablet gestures.

youtube has a demo film (from 1969)

m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cq8S3jz

Devil Lu Linvega

Reading the december adventure feed, nearly halfway into the month, you'd expect people to have started to play with stuff, but the feed reads like most are lost in the weeds of setting their servers or environment and whatnot so they can finally begin. For a chillout event, it looks exhausting af

Eamon

@neauoire I am in this post and I don't like it.

🇺🇦 Aarøn :oko:

@neauoire What feed? I am pushing through the Alpine Linux Issue tracker as my #decemberadventure, and it's so much fun!

okoyono.de/~f/december-adventu

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@neauoire i'm not even officially participating but my goal is to migrate to plan 9. i learn one new thing and break about 6 more in the process...

Devil Lu Linvega

Added punctuation to my little shorthand recognition engine(yes, like palm's graffiti).

The idea here is to assign to each one of these glyphs, a reduction into arrows that can be input easily with a d-pad, and then replace the orca glyph input system with this on instead, so I can "draw" livecoding.

git.sr.ht/~rabbits/grail/tree/

Devil Lu Linvega

Went to a reception organized by the local athletics club, met some folks at the event that have been training there for over 50 years. Octogenarian goals right there.

Devil Lu Linvega

For the past two days, I've been experimenting with making an input method that allows me to draw glyphs as keyboard replacement.

To reduce mistakes, I've added alternative shapes for some of the characters so if I miss a direction or two it still understands what I'm trying to type. The whole whole thing is a tiny 1.6kb rom.
git.sr.ht/~rabbits/grail/tree/

William D. Jones

@neauoire It still makes my head spin that you made a stack machine do lambdas.

I just have so much trouble wrapping my head around that.

Devil Lu Linvega

It looks like I might be able to add basic support for cursive, or at least characters with ligatures.

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Z@b0\/\/

@neauoire Woah, I have one of those somewhere! Maybe the worst spent money ever 😄

Jared Jennings

@neauoire hah i remember a story that came out about a guy who wrote so much Graffiti that he lost the ability to write properly with paper and pen. he couldn't sign checks properly. ...remember checks?

Carl Poppa 🛸

@neauoire wow first time i'm seeing this! so one had to write exactly in this format or the Palm Pilot wouldn't recognise the input?

Devil Lu Linvega

I haven't mastered the shorthand just yet... but I'm getting better

wvs

@neauoire How are you thinking to input a colon : right now? #UF

Devil Lu Linvega

*squints* bug.. in the function?
*squints more* no, bug.. in the assembler.

Ramsey Nasser

@neauoire common stackoverflow nerd: there are almost never bugs in the compiler, its usually user code
me, writing several compilers, riddled with bugs: 😬😬😬

gvv

@neauoire my entire last 24 hrs (modulo sleeping and eating).. ugh, bug in assembly code 🤓no wait: bug in emulator 😬no wait, bug in assembler? hrrmmm... 🤔 ooohhhhh, bug in specification! 😖

nf

@neauoire *squints further* bug in the cpu?

It’s funny, at work it’s an old adage that if you think it’s a compiler bug it’s probably not (true). But once the complete opposite happened and a colleague was trying to debug something and ended up reporting a microcode bug to Intel. (!!)

Devil Lu Linvega

I've been scratching my head on how to handle capitalized letters and special characters. I think a shifted mode is a better option than learning twice as many glyphs, or disambiguating for all these similar characters(w,W,m,M,o,O, etc)

I'd like to leave space for the uxntal alphabet
wiki.xxiivv.com/site/uxntal_al

ArBe

@neauoire Oh I'd forgotten about that! Such a perfect fit for this input method

Fabian

@neauoire
Hi Devine, what OS and / or Distribuition do you use to develop porporo on your Raspberry Pi? If I want to compile porporo under Linux it only works on my x86-64 machines for me. I tried Raspberry Pi OS and Sparky Linux on my Raspberry Pi and in both cases I get an type error for a raise function. Are you aware of this error? I can provide a screenshot of the error if that helps.

Many Greetings
Fabian

@neauoire
Hi Devine, what OS and / or Distribuition do you use to develop porporo on your Raspberry Pi? If I want to compile porporo under Linux it only works on my x86-64 machines for me. I tried Raspberry Pi OS and Sparky Linux on my Raspberry Pi and in both cases I get an type error for a raise function. Are you aware of this error? I can provide a screenshot of the error if that helps.

Devil Lu Linvega

✏️ still ways away from programming without a keyboard..

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hwps 🍄 🌱

@neauoire Wait, I thought you needed a neural net!? ;D

wvs

@neauoire Holy crap, it's a funny thing to wake up and get suuuuuper excited to find what is essentially palm graffiti on uxn. Seriously... watching uxn progress is like apple release-announcments for propeller-heads. #grail.rom

Devil Lu Linvega

I've forgotten how to program without writing self-modifying code..

Devil Lu Linvega

It's a slippery slope from making a flow-based operating system, to why do I even have a keyboard to do computing at all, to I could do it all with my pencil, to fuck it let's implement GRAIL.

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Diego F. Goberna

@neauoire coincidentally, I was doing something similar a few months ago.

feiss.github.io/juli/

It was aimed to dislexic people doing math. So only supports numbers, it recognizes flipped gestures (you can draw a 5 looking to the left), and aligns to the grid.

Wip, hacky implementation, etc. Everything is in the page source code, no dependencies.

krowe

@neauoire I feel like my minds been blown that I can have other ways of writing code besides just a keyboard.

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