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@ploum @mysk

This part applies to only the interaction with "Apple apps" for which there is user tracking & backend processing.

Like expecting a "google search" is private from Google ?

10 February at 21:37 | Wall-to-wall | Open on social.jesuislibre.net
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MyskπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ

@tuxicoman @ploum Apple's lawyers' statement was generic and inaccurate. Not all Apple apps are the same. Apple Maps for example doesn't link search queries to a user's profile. Locations visited and remain on-device or synced with other iCloud devices while end-to-end encrypted. Apple can still provide a way to opt out for apps that aren't private from Apple. But they don't, and that contradicts with the slogan "what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone"

10 February at 21:53 | Open on mastodon.social
MyskπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ

@tuxicoman @ploum We are working on a new video to highlight this. Might be ready next weekend.

10 February at 21:58 | Open on mastodon.social
ploum

@mysk @tuxicoman : the point here is not what is technically happening right now.

It is philosophical: if no reasonable user should expect privacy, they will invade that privacy. They will use those data against you. They will sell it. It’s Chehkov’s gun: any gun on the wall in the first act will be fired during the third act.

(well, one might argue that they already do. The fact that they do it less visibly and in a more closed way than Google doesn’t make it less bad).

10 February at 21:59 | Open on mamot.fr
Tuxicoman

@ploum @mysk

Maybe we diverge @ploum from the subject. I don't know.

The day I realized government put 'recording' mode on all I thought ephemeral:
- sms & calls
- smartphone position
- ip connections (hadopi black boxes, internet providers logs)
- identity to take public transport
- car movement (with cameras recording plates on every main road)
-Tomorrow will be face&body movement recording.

I think we lost. Except hackers than can communicate secrets at exponential costs.

@ploum @mysk

Maybe we diverge @ploum from the subject. I don't know.

The day I realized government put 'recording' mode on all I thought ephemeral:
- sms & calls
- smartphone position
- ip connections (hadopi black boxes, internet providers logs)
- identity to take public transport
- car movement (with cameras recording plates on every main road)
-Tomorrow will be face&body movement recording.

11 February at 0:56 | Open on social.jesuislibre.net
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@tuxicoman @ploum @mysk
I expect the password I use on a website to be private from the staff of the website, and if it's a properly-run website it is. Data can be processed without the staff being able to see it. The difference is between companies who choose to do that and those who choose not to. Apple is saying here "we're in the latter category".

11 February at 6:08 | Open on dotnet.social
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