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Just because the right-wing are anti-Taylor doesn't mean everyone on the left needs to start stanning a billionaire. There are no good billionaires. If she was a good person, she wouldn't be one either. It's fine to enjoy her music but she's as harmful as every other billionaire for simply existing. Do I think some billionaires are more actively harmful than others? Sure. But none of them should be billionaires. There are no good ones. 38 comments
@aetataureate I do have to be there for work and it's the best way to keep up with a couple of family members. I mostly have trained my feed to show me silly cat pictures, but I would quit if not for work and fam.  @kitoconnell you don't gotta hand it to the billionaire flying all over the country in a private jet  @kitoconnell It's not progressive to accept framing everything into a binary us/not-us issue. And it's weird to pretend someone with enough money to hand out 1 million a month without feeling it is one with the common people. I won't ever have that much, unless inflation takes a flying leap some time in the near future. People saying "you wouldn't want YOUR private jet tracked!" like I would even buy one if I could. "There are no good billionaires. If she was a good person, she wouldn't be one either. It's fine to enjoy her music but she's as harmful as every other billionaire for simply existing." Are you a good person? @AlexanderKingsbury regardless of this philosophical debate, which can be an interesting one, I do less harm to the planet than a billionaire. I just find it interesting to ask people who accuse other people of being bad people or not good people if they regard themselves as good people. @AlexanderKingsbury I think the majority of us are just flawed humans trying our best, doing some good and some harm, and its overly simplistic to describe most of us as good or bad. But I also believe the people hoarding that much of the planets resources are killing us and that does change my calculations. Do you have a specific amount of wealth where someone becomes fundamentally a bad person? A billion dollars apparently makes someone bad; is that the exact number? Can you have $500 million and not be a bad person? @AlexanderKingsbury I think our problems are systemic and ultimately it's complicated, but if you're hoarding more resources than most of us earn in a lifetime I'm at the very least suspicious of you. You do not get to be one of the richest in this sick system, and stay there, without crushing many underfoot. Simply her and other billionaires use of private jets is killing people. @AlexanderKingsbury @kitoconnell Well put; scapegoating (judging people as a group to blame them collectively for stuff) is not exclusively a right-wing thing. Even though the targets are not nearly as vulnerable (so Iâm not *that* bothered) the line of thinking is eerily similar. @mkoek @AlexanderKingsbury as a silent tear falls down the cheeks of all the billionaires on my friends list... @mkoek @AlexanderKingsbury more seriously, there's something fundamentally different to me between lumping the 12 or 15 richest people on earth (or whatever it is now) together into one group, and lumping together an actually vulnerable, oppressed group. Billionaires aren't subject to harmful marginalization. Things can be surface level similar without being the same.  @AlexanderKingsbury @kitoconnell I have a really hard time imagining that people are âgoodâ or âbadâ People can take âgoodâ or âbadâ actions (all relative). Taylor Swift does good things; she does bad things I think the important point is that hoarding far more money than you or your family could use in a lifetime is definitely a bad thing (My long-winded way of saying I will be ignoring the Super Bowl and Taylor Swift completely â fuck em all) "I think the important point is that hoarding far more money than you or your family could use in a lifetime is definitely a bad thing" I don't have the slightest clue what she does with her money. Supposing she were to give lots of money to charity, for example...is it still bad that she has that money, if she does good things with some of it? @AlexanderKingsbury @peterbutler hanging onto that much money fundamentally means you are not doing enough good things with it to offset the harm you are doing. "hanging onto that much money fundamentally means you are not doing enough good things with it to offset the harm you are doing." That seems to change the calculus a bit. It seems like the question isn't how much money you have, but whether or not you're doing more harm than good. @peterbutler @AlexanderKingsbury @kitoconnell Isn't he just? Dedicated sealion accounts are weird. @pstewart @AlexanderKingsbury @kitoconnell Itâs like a nihilistâs version of the Socratic method If youâve got something to say, say it, THEN ask your questions  @kitoconnell I saw some thread the other day trying to defend her but it basically came down to "she's nice to her fans" @julieofthespirits yea a lot of it seems that way. And tbh that's fine, I do have some small respect for celebrities that treat their fans well. But I still believe being a billionaire is bad. @kitoconnell yeah like, I don't need the bourgeoisie to be nice I need it to not exist @kitoconnell also: no one becomes a billionaire through just ticket sales and streaming royalties. None of the ex Beatles were ever billionaires. What are her other investments? @julieofthespirits @kitoconnell Iâm not gonna look too hard but Iâm pretty sure the vast majority of her income comes from her music (and merch and tickets) @julieofthespirits @kitoconnell and I do have to give her some props for turning down $100 million (!) from FTX. Lots of celebs took the sleazy crypto cash @peterbutler @julieofthespirits that shows at least her managers have better judgment than most about staying away from scams, sure.  @peterbutler @julieofthespirits @kitoconnell Her dad was/is a vulture capitalist who could afford to move to Nashville when she was very young and hire top people to work with her. @RodneyPetersonTalent @julieofthespirits @kitoconnell Fair point. Family capital is often a hidden privilege @kitoconnell So many more productive ways we could be spending our time. @IvanTheBlue yes I've even enjoyed some of her music. It's about how people with this much wealth are harmful inherently. @kitoconnell I am sure her multi-billionaire record company is trying as hard as they can to claw back as much of her money as they possibly can. Oh theyâre fucked. They way overpaid for the catalog and she owns all the publishing rights. And thatâs before the re-recordings sheâs done, of which they get zero interest of any kind. All the songwriting royalties, all the publishing, and all licensed commercial uses of her music go through her. Period. All thatâs left for them are streaming and sales of the original album releases only. |
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