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Mark Shane Hayden

@J12t the #Bluesky vision for the internet appears to most resemble a shopping mall. The architecture is (or rather, will be...if they deliver on their promises, which has not happened yet) open to anyone who can afford the rent and has the skills and acumen to run a metaphorical "retail business" in this mall. The people who participate will have the illusory freedom to pick and choose their services from the retailers (applications, content moderation services, data processing services etc) but the providers run the show.

The #Fediverse is trying to restore the community-centric nature of the early web. Fedi instances are more like community centres, local pubs, that house down the street where all the kids hang out and play street hockey and so on. Some local shops would be there too for sure, but the vision is more about community I think. With #Threads starting to federate and the established dominance of Gargron's servers it will be a constant challenge to maintain that vision but it's still there.

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Johannes Ernst

@msh I have not heard of a connection of Bluesky and the “retail business” as you call it. How do you see it differently from somebody setting up an instance here?

Mark Shane Hayden

@J12t well "retail business" is part of the "shopping mall" metaphor, AT protocol services don't technically need to be provided by a retail business, but due to the nature of the architecture Bluesky is built upon retail/commercial business will most likely be the service providers.

When you set up a mastodon/pixelfed/lemmy/peertube/etc. instance you are building an independently operated server...metaphorically a place like a home, or pub, or a park or whatever...that is owned and operated top to bottom by you (or your team)...you maintain the app, decide how to store the data, manage logins/accounts, do the moderation etc. A fedi server/instance is thus a natural place to establish a community.

The way Bluesky and future AT services are designed to work is that "servers don't matter". You can provide logins/identities as a service, content moderation as another service, host applications like a microblog or video sharing or whatever as a service etc...and people pick and choose those services...

@J12t well "retail business" is part of the "shopping mall" metaphor, AT protocol services don't technically need to be provided by a retail business, but due to the nature of the architecture Bluesky is built upon retail/commercial business will most likely be the service providers.

When you set up a mastodon/pixelfed/lemmy/peertube/etc. instance you are building an independently operated server...metaphorically a place like a home, or pub, or a park or whatever...that is owned and operated top...

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