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lizzy :v_trans: :v_bi:

@gamingonlinux @lutris no, because cheating in video games can be a legitimate way to play the game. free software means cheating resources should not be censored. it is the responsibility of the user to use those tools ethically, in contexts where it is explicitly allowed or at least does not harm anyone, or for the purpose of dealing damage to malicious projects (like pay-to-win servers). if anything, improve server-side anti-cheat measures and security (by means of improving the protocol and the verification of user inputs, not by ridiculous things like trying to verify that the client hasn't been modified), but censorship has never prevented unethical use of tools. It just makes them more inaccessible, thus creating an even larger power imbalance between cheaters and regular users.

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Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

@fleckenstein @lutris weโ€™re talking about online games, itโ€™s not ethical to cheat in them, it ruins it for everyone

lizzy :v_trans: :v_bi:

@gamingonlinux @lutris false. cheating in online games can be ethical depending on the context.

lizzy :v_trans: :v_bi:

@gamingonlinux @lutris how dare people have fun in the way they like in within their own, dedicated spaces

Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

@fleckenstein @lutris ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ not the type of game being talked about, read the room

lizzy :v_trans: :v_bi:

@gamingonlinux @lutris you never gave any more context than "online games" and "lutris game pages". online games can mean a lot of things and i don't agree that "cheating in online games" in general is unethical. You can't expect me to guess context that you don't provide. Would be nice if you did tell me what you're talking about.

Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

@fleckenstein @lutris games with anti-cheat, clearly not any of the type of games youโ€™re talking about

Destiny 2
Valorant
Fortnite

lizzy :v_trans: :v_bi:

@gamingonlinux @lutris I mean, games like Minetest, Minecraft, Veloren etc. have anticheat measures as well. I would know because I have literally worked on improving Minetest anticheat code as well as having made a cheat client for Minetest.

In general I'd agree that games that have centralized infrastructure and don't allow you to set up your own servers usually do not have opportunities for ethical cheating.

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