@jgilbert 'Scuse my language, but really, fuck the smart ovens and elevators - they're part of the problem and have no reason being online in the first place. But wait until someone's pension matures 'many years in the past' (or years in the future)! That's going to be fun, as long as one isn't directly affected. And as I said, if I'm spared, I may even get some interesting work out of it :)