@burgerdrome yeah, it is insane. in my livingroom there is a sony android tv, a denon reciever and a ps5. each of these wants network, accounts, needs updates and all that stuff. i wish sony would sellco sumer devices with just the panel with one hdmi input, no speakers and no options other than energy saving maybe. just a 4k oled screen with no options. all of them sell public signage displays, which are basically that, but at 3x the price. meh.