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Michael Gale

@noellemitchell So gross!

edit: TL;DR- Facebook container can’t help with in-app browsing.

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Noelle :verified:

@miclgael That's a good point, I wonder if installing that helps with this issue.

tasket

@noellemitchell @miclgael My understanding is that #Firefox now protects you (like the container did) by default. Enhanced Tracking Protection is turned on by default. developer.mozilla.org/en-US/do

However... there may be non-tracking issues it can't remedy, like keylogging. When you interact with a website (really use it) you have to trust it. If that site adds a 3rd-party keylogger then they have a deal to share your data with "partners" anyway. The EU has laws against this but we don't.

@noellemitchell @miclgael My understanding is that #Firefox now protects you (like the container did) by default. Enhanced Tracking Protection is turned on by default. developer.mozilla.org/en-US/do

However... there may be non-tracking issues it can't remedy, like keylogging. When you interact with a website (really use it) you have to trust it. If that site adds a 3rd-party keylogger then they have a deal to share your data with "partners" anyway. The EU...

tasket

@noellemitchell @miclgael The "loads in special Facebook browser" is probably a practice that Apple and Android could force them to stop. They already place strong restrictions on anything considered to be a 3rd party web browser.

Jason Lefkowitz

@miclgael @noellemitchell It looks like the technique requires you to use the in-app browser in the Facebook app or TikTok app or whatever to work, rather than using a standalone browser. If you use the Facebook app’s in-app browser, the Facebook app can inject whatever tracking scripts it wants into it.

gizmodo.com/tiktok-keylogging-

tasket

@jalefkowit TBH, Meta deploying their own browser and trying to keep people in there (and convince them its a cool feature) smacks of desperation. 3rd party tracking pixels & cookies have been neutered by a growing number of browsers, so Meta is trying to become the 1st party browser.

Instructions for doing anything on the web should insert a zeroth step: "First, exit the Meta browser and then..." 🙂

JW prince of CPH

@jalefkowit @miclgael @noellemitchell Of note: Every single "Privacy Washing" initiative - i.e. some sort of on-by-default tracking they try to convince you to consent to - from every single corporate social media = thing they're doing anyway, whether you consent or not, sometimes whether you're using their service or not (remember Facebook Beacon?).

It's just an effort to create enough noise to obfuscate their spying.

Alf No Problem

@miclgael @noellemitchell Better yet - do not use Facebook and delete their apps from your phone. Easy. Done that 4 years ago. Cheers! :-)

Kofani

@AlfNoProblem @miclgael @noellemitchell heh, you now with us here, we are better then your old keyswaspressedlogger)

Josh

@AlfNoProblem @miclgael Wish I could, I have friends who won't use anything else and who I might lose touch with if I just stopped using it. They should have to use an open protocol for chat imo.

cuan_knaggs

@miclgael @noellemitchell this is about the app and the app using it's own browser in the app. using FB with out the app and in a real browser mitigates some of this. but if you're you're talking containers in FF look at:
- addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firef
- addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firef

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