Gregory's Servermy cold take on the Threads federation thing is: if you simply consider them not as some mystical "platform" but as any other "instance", then they're an over-sized under-moderated data-scraping instance housing many vile users right up to the point of "technically legal free speech"... and we've all suspended instances before for much less.
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@touk cynically, that is just solely because no other instance is large enough or has been around long enough to be worth suingโฆ yet. @kevinriggle @touk well the other instances would need to successfully keep data first wow this blew up, check out my Settings > Moderation > Federation > Add New Domain Block > threads.net > Suspend  @touk turns out I can make a lot of money with your data in ways that are totally legal!   @touk I'm not going to rush to block the entire #threads instance as I have a lot of friends on #facebook and many of them suffer from odd preconceptions about mastodon being overly complicated and other nonsense so their first experience of the #fediverse will likely be through threads, and I'd like to welcome them here. But I won't hesitate to block anyone thinking they can troll or be racist, anti inclusivity or fascist. Not for a second.  @rozeboosje @touk That devolves the work on many marginalized people, duplicated for each, when it's actually part of instance moderation at least on instances that actually care for marginalized people @project1enigma @rozeboosje @touk Yes, this. Imagine being someone the racists like to target. You get a ton of abuse constantly; you can block people, sure. You can block the instances, sure. But if you join/use Mastodon and that's the first thing you get, it is not good. And if the admins of your server figure well, we won't block that server which you keep getting abuse from, that reflects poorly to say the least.  @rozeboosje @touk Are you ready to moderate all of Threads? 'Cause that will be necessary if you don't want to throw the safety of others under the bus. Even if you block the most well known bullshitters like "LibsOfTiktok" or "PragerU" there are too many for single moderators to handle.   The over-sized part is the thing which scares me the most. If they are large enough they could get away with breaking federation.
Anyone who finds more than a third of their "contacts" to be on Threads should be scared of Threads. And that holds true regardless of whether your own profile is on Threads or not.     @touk Yep. But in the past, we did not defederate A from B because B did not defederate from C. |
I've said it before, but Meta is the only instance operator currently sending me a class action lawsuit payment for past data abuses