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Aral Balkan
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Paul Sutton

@aral

People still trust Meta /Facebook how do we convince those people ?

15 Dec 2023 at 8:47 | Open on qoto.org
Miro Collas

@zleap @aral Many have tried. I thin to them, convenience and social connections matter more than ethics or morality.

15 Dec 2023 at 8:59 | Open on masto.ai
Paul Sutton

@Miro_Collas @aral

This is the issue, connections. Person A is connected to BCD and BCD are connected to eachother and A, so unless everyone moves, everyone loses that connection.

People also follow groups, and specific companies or services which would also have to exist here.

15 Dec 2023 at 9:09 | Open on qoto.org
Miro Collas

@zleap @aral Yes, all true. And the convenience of that matters more than ethics/morals, as I said. That doesn't speak well of humans in general.

15 Dec 2023 at 9:24 | Open on masto.ai
Paul Sutton

@Miro_Collas @aral

If I find interesting links or content on here, I will share on my blog, e.g a link to a paper or article, I will say in my blog post it was posted to fediverse. A small thing but will hopefully also help highlight we do have interesting things going on here.

Eventually there may be a big pull. I still argue we need to be ready for the next big main stream scandle, and jump on it, to promote fedi, Not that the reinstatement of Alex Jones got that much attention, As I think the media want to avoid giving Alex Jones more attention.

@Miro_Collas @aral

If I find interesting links or content on here, I will share on my blog, e.g a link to a paper or article, I will say in my blog post it was posted to fediverse. A small thing but will hopefully also help highlight we do have interesting things going on here.

Eventually there may be a big pull. I still argue we need to be ready for the next big main stream scandle, and jump on it, to promote fedi, Not that the reinstatement of Alex Jones got that much attention, As I think the...

15 Dec 2023 at 9:28 | Open on qoto.org
Miro Collas

@zleap @aral You make valid points: every attempt to draw attention to the fediverse, if helpful. :-) So, well done!

Overall I am hopeful, or I wouldn't be here.

15 Dec 2023 at 9:53 | Open on masto.ai
Filani

@zleap @Miro_Collas @aral I think to be able to convince more people to join the fediverse , the fediverse should try to copy as many features as possible from the other traditional platforms. People join these platforms because of these features and don't want to lose them if they turn to Fediverse .
Groups, character limit on mastodon, video size , counts of likes/comments... Etc

15 Dec 2023 at 9:33 | Open on jidaar.net
Paul Sutton

@Filani @Miro_Collas @aral

We need more of the high quality content, and to interact with it, start conversations, the latter happens to a point. So attract users that way,
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15 Dec 2023 at 9:36 | Open on qoto.org
Filani

@zleap @Miro_Collas @aral Sometimes I think the developers (with all respect to them all sure ) are a bit conservative about copying features from other platforms even though the big tech companies are just copying each other. But yes we know there are many technical limitations..

15 Dec 2023 at 9:42 | Open on jidaar.net
Miro Collas

@Filani @zleap @aral I am not sure copying is the right approach. Granted, some features from (for example) twitter, might be nice to have.
However I think a better approach is to listen to users, study how fedi us used, and build on that information. That may result in some copying, but also (hopefully) features which are unique to the fediverse.

15 Dec 2023 at 9:56 | Open on masto.ai
Filani

@Miro_Collas @zleap @aral Personally I have no problem with copying. But I totally agree with you that " listen to users" is maybe the way to go

15 Dec 2023 at 10:13 | Open on jidaar.net
Aral Balkan

@zleap We don’t (fuck knows I’ve tried). It’s a waste of time.

We build alternatives.

15 Dec 2023 at 10:08 | Open on mastodon.ar.al
FediThing 🏳️‍🌈

@aral

It's so insane.

If platform and instance owners start working with Meta it will go badly wrong for the Fediverse, and what will they say?

I'm guessing they'll either deny anything is wrong, or say "We had no way of predicting this", or say "We had no other options".

Anything but admit they were going into this willingly, and knowing how terrible Meta is.

15 Dec 2023 at 9:33 | Open on social.chinwag.org
JimmyChezPants

@aral

I've had a couple of exchanges the last few days which were very much like conversations I've had about cryptofascist politicians with well-meaning people.

15 Dec 2023 at 10:17 | Open on growers.social
JimmyChezPants

@aral

"Oh well, I think everyone deserves a chance!"

"You're not open to new things!"

15 Dec 2023 at 10:17 | Open on growers.social
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