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L. Rhodes

@danyork This will sound rhetorical or facetious, but: Why?

I can see the value for WP bloggers who want another RSS-like channel for syndicating their posts, but is there some benefit to the fediverse itself in promoting this particular form of adoption?

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Krafting

@lrhodes people can comments your post directly from their feed! no need to go through your website and put their email in the form!

Alexander S. Kunz

@krafting this was still woefully incomplete in my tests. The comment would show β€” my own reply would not! πŸ˜… @lrhodes

Krafting

@alexskunz @lrhodes yeah, I tested it too and reply were a bit broken but I tested a while ago, there were update since then, I hopt it fixed rhta

warrows

@krafting @alexskunz @lrhodes when I tested it a few month ago threaded comments were broken too. But release 1.3 from last week is supposed to have them working. Gotta try it again ​:neofox_glasses:​

Adam Dalliance

@krafting @lrhodes

But I turned comments off on my blog years ago cos they were just spammy crap that took time to moderate.

I added a stuff to well-known so that searching for my blog domain in masto returns my Mastodon account.

Expect I probably will get around to adding the activitypub plugin one day but not seeing any hurry and expecting it to be a bit of a pain coz my blog isn't at the root of the domain and I have stuff for nostr and more in well-known too.

DJM (freelance for hire)

@lrhodes @danyork Well, it's a bi-directional RSS feed: comments made in the Fediverse appear back on the blog.
Benefits for the Fediverse: good sources of (thematic) content, that can spread among diverse communities and generate social interactions...

Bix πŸ«₯

@cybeardjm @lrhodes @danyork Question: if you don’t have any public-facing comments displaying on your blog, can your blog still reply to comments from fedi within WP admin itself?

Dan York

@lrhodes - What @cybeardjm said. It enriches the content of the Fediverse, and it aids in the *discovery* of content published on WP sites versus inside walled gardens like Facebook.

From an advocacy perspective, it also increases the number of nodes connected to the Fediverse, which aids in the promotion of Fediverse/Mastodon with journalists and other who care about numbers.

But mostly, it just makes more content available to Fediverse users.

L. Rhodes

@danyork @cybeardjm I suppose if it encourages people to post on WP sites rather than Facebook, that's a positive, but if it's only making existing WP sites available via AP, then I'm not sure that's *really* making more content available, since all of those sites are likewise available on the open web, and are syndicated via RSS by default.

DJM (freelance for hire)

@lrhodes @danyork Most people now have never heard of RSS... Yeah, it was everywhere a few (10) years ago, but most users don't know what it is and how to subscribe etc.
Technically, yes, you're right, RSS is everywhere, but with a very small % of users... Remember blogrolls, yeah, it's the same...

DJM (freelance for hire)

@lrhodes @danyork How many people know about RSS in Mastodon or Pixelfed etc.
How many use it (e.g. via the plugin Friends in WordPress [not Mastodon])?

L. Rhodes

@cybeardjm @danyork My guess would be that people who are willing to put up with the oddities of ActivityPub are probably more aware of RSS than the general population. But let's find out: merveilles.town/@lrhodes/11157

Ang Black

@lrhodes
Maybe I understand this wrong but can you not just use your WP blog as your fediverse presence instead of a Masto or other account? Is tge functionality too limited for that?
@danyork @cybeardjm

DJM (freelance for hire)

@BigAngBlack @lrhodes @danyork You're right, you don't need a Mastodon or Pixelfed or Friendica or... account to connect your WordPress blog to the Fediverse. It becomes its own instance. It's just easier to check and reshare and publicize you WP+AP, that's all. With WP+AP, you post to the Fediverse, and your followers (if any) will see and be able to comment.

Dan York

@BigAngBlack @lrhodes @cybeardjm

With the ActivityPub plugin, you get publishing to Fediverse and you get comments coming back.

As someone else said (DJM?) it's kind of 2-way RSS.

You do NOT get "following" of other accounts as you would in a Mastodon account

If all you want to do is publish your thoughts and engage with comments, then YES, your WP blog could now be your Fediverse presence.

If you want to engage with other accounts, there's another plugin: wordpress.org/plugins/friends/

DJM (freelance for hire)

@danyork @BigAngBlack @lrhodes Or you can use Bridgy Fed (and IndieAuth to follow accounts), a different approach to use ActivityPub, without the "official" plugin.
There's another way, a bit trickier: the "Enable Mastodon Apps" plugin that adds a set of Mastodon API to a WordPress blog. Tested it with Elk, and it's fun.

DJM (freelance for hire)

@BigAngBlack @danyork @lrhodes Yes, although the AP plugin is quite old (I started using it in 2019 or so), it's evolving and whole "Fediverse" environment is evolving too, with new apps and tools almost everyday. We know AP still has some limits and might transform again at some point. That's what's interesting, IMHO

Laurens Hof

@lrhodes @danyork

yeah, it makes a massive difference in engagement I find. people tend to not click links on social platforms, and this way you circumvent that by simply boosting the entire body of text into peoples feeds directly

as an example, this post would never have gotten 120+ boosts if I posted the link to it instead
dev.phanpy.social/#/mastodon.s

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