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@KevinMarks @Gargron can you summarize?

Like 10 Dec 2023 at 15:59 | Wall-to-wall | Open on cosocial.ca

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@evan @Gargron that paper cites a definition of intelligence by racist eugenicists, and doesn't have any actual controls, only vibes. It is worth watching / listening, as is the linked radiolab series on intelligence measuring

10 Dec 2023 at 16:03 | Open on xoxo.zone

@KevinMarks @Gargron yeah, I'm not going to do that. Send me some written critiques though!

10 Dec 2023 at 16:03 | Open on cosocial.ca

@evan @Gargron https://medium.com/@emilymenonbender/talking-about-a-schism-is-ahistorical-3c454a77220f

This vision of ‘intelligence’ is rooted in the notably racist notions of IQ (and its associated race science).

For example, take the recent “Sparks of AGI” paper (non-peer-reviewed speculative fiction novella, uploaded to arXiv) from Microsoft Research. The first version of this paper took its definition of ‘intelligence’ from a 1997 WSJ editorial written in support of Herrnstein & Murray’s 1994 The Bell Curve. It appears that none of the authors on “Sparks of AGI” had actually read to the second page of the WSJ editorial, where the overtly racist claims that Black and Latinx people are (on average) less ‘intelligent’ than white people can be found. Once it was pointed out, the “Sparks” authors responded by editing their arXiv novella first to disavow the racism in the 1997 editorial and then to remove the citation altogether. This, of course, left “Sparks” without a definition of the thing it claimed to be seeking (and finding!) in GPT-4 output.

10 Dec 2023 at 16:15 | Open on xoxo.zone

@KevinMarks @Gargron I deleted my recommendation of this paper.

10 Dec 2023 at 16:21 | Open on cosocial.ca

jack(y) or treat!

@evan @KevinMarks @Gargron check the citations of that paper would be the most immediate one

10 Dec 2023 at 16:03 | Open on todon.eu

@jalcine @KevinMarks @Gargron which citations?

10 Dec 2023 at 16:07 | Open on cosocial.ca

jack(y) or treat!

@evan @KevinMarks @Gargron to the paper you've referenced!

10 Dec 2023 at 16:08 | Open on todon.eu

@jalcine @KevinMarks @Gargron what do they say?

10 Dec 2023 at 16:10 | Open on cosocial.ca

@jalcine @KevinMarks @Gargron I see a lot of discussion of the Gottfredson definition of intelligence, which was removed. I've only read parts of the most recent version, which says "there's no generally agreed definition of intelligence." Which I think is still true, although I am not an expert in this field.

10 Dec 2023 at 16:18 | Open on cosocial.ca