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A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:

@tom_andraszek ft.com/content/0c594b02-6f91-4

Yes it did.

Do you not really think being forced to recall (and fix for free) potentially hundreds of thousands of cars is a punishment?

VW made zero money from it, and all their customers now have a less powerful engine.

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Pawlicker replied to A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:
@AlgorithmWolf @tom_andraszek >less powerful
Slightly less power/mpg is nothing compared to the pages of "my dpf failed and the dealer wants $1,000 to replace it and also its on backorder" complaints on forums.
Which was a problem before the scandal even then because vw was trying to use a def free system, which is nowhere near as robust and is notorious for failures compared to the def systems competitors used. The fix really stressed it harder.
@AlgorithmWolf @tom_andraszek >less powerful
Slightly less power/mpg is nothing compared to the pages of "my dpf failed and the dealer wants $1,000 to replace it and also its on backorder" complaints on forums.
Tom Andraszek replied to A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:

@AlgorithmWolf - In 2021 "The EU has fined Volkswagen and BMW €875m (£750m) after finding that the German carmakers colluded with another rival, the Mercedes-Benz owner Daimler, to delay emissions-cleaning technology."

My point is the US fined VW for emissions cheating, the EU did not. This EU fine (I don't know if they actually paid it) was for something different.

theguardian.com/environment/20

The EU "asked", "urged", and "strongly encouraged" VW:

commission.europa.eu/live-work

@AlgorithmWolf - In 2021 "The EU has fined Volkswagen and BMW €875m (£750m) after finding that the German carmakers colluded with another rival, the Mercedes-Benz owner Daimler, to delay emissions-cleaning technology."

My point is the US fined VW for emissions cheating, the EU did not. This EU fine (I don't know if they actually paid it) was for something different.

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