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(((JaneinNJ)))

@Sheril @elisegravel The quick guideline used to be: would you be ok with what you’re saying showing up on the front page of the NY Post? (What’s the digital source of scurrilous gossip these days? You could drop that in instead of the Post.)

Henry

@JaneinNJ @Sheril @elisegravel I think that’s a great way to summarise tbh πŸ™‚

JohaFreu

@KeithDJohnson @Sheril this was part of a job related course. So true and works perfect for me beside being one of the hardest things to practise!

Dan

@JohaFreu @KeithDJohnson @Sheril if something fires me up, I will often wait even until the next day, re-read, and then think about responding. It's saved me a fair few misunderstandings

OliverUv

@dan @JohaFreu @KeithDJohnson @Sheril

very nice!

Tons of overlap with the Buddhist idea of Right Speech. The idea is that before speaking, consider five things:
1) is it true/factual
2) is it helpful/beneficial
3) is it kind (with good will, intending the best for all involved)
4) is it endearing (gentle, considerate?)
5) is it timely

Number four and five are definitely often forgotten! Things that are true and kind may not be helpful at the wrong time, or with the wrong tone.

@dan @JohaFreu @KeithDJohnson @Sheril

very nice!

Tons of overlap with the Buddhist idea of Right Speech. The idea is that before speaking, consider five things:
1) is it true/factual
2) is it helpful/beneficial
3) is it kind (with good will, intending the best for all involved)
4) is it endearing (gentle, considerate?)
5) is it timely

oftencalledcathy

@KeithDJohnson @Sheril If only you could pause for 90 seconds in conversations!

Andrew Shields

@KeithDJohnson @Sheril Do you know who created this image about reaction and response? It’s sort of signed in the upper right, I think, but if I use it, I’d like to be able to credit the source explicitly!

Keith D Johnson for Kamala

@AndrewShields It was in my FB feed without attribution. An image search would likely reveal its origin.

Andrew Shields

@KeithDJohnson Thanks for letting me know! An image search found lots of hits of the image (which is apparently very popular), but I couldn’t find one with an attribution. It’s too bad when the source of such popular work disappears.

B's Creative Life 🌈 πŸ§ΆπŸŒ±πŸ›πŸŽΌ

@Sheril or we could quit telling people how to use "social" media?🀷🏼 It used to be called minding one's own business? πŸ•ŠοΈ

Clara Listensprechen
@Sheril Well, @BsCreativeLife , it's like this-- a lot of people who just pop off were likely brought up feral in a barn while civilized people already know that it's considerate to engage your brain before your mouth. It's not just called "being considerate" it's also called "good manners", and they must be learned by all who claim to be civilized.
13 barn owls in a trench coat

@BsCreativeLife for extra context, this poster is part of Gravel's set of teaching materials for children/teens.

It's genuinely useful for that, but I can confirm that I've found it helpful as a professionally online adult.

B's Creative Life 🌈 πŸ§ΆπŸŒ±πŸ›πŸŽΌ

@HauntedOwlbear Thank you for your clarification. If these are used for guidelines, great. Often I find too many telling others how to use digital media without thinking about who needs these mediums. There are lonely teens/adults who social media is the only way they can make friends. As an educator, parent, retired childcare provider, & disabled adult I have seen social media used in a variety of beneficial ways. Guidance w/out context often appears to be rules & standards that people balk at.

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@BsCreativeLife
I found that post so useful I'm showing it to my pupils. They really need some guidelines on how to use social media.
@Sheril

B's Creative Life 🌈 πŸ§ΆπŸŒ±πŸ›πŸŽΌ

@edmonde that's great, please ensure to include introducing them to safe online spaces for them to speak freely as part of your lesson. This guidance does not work without it. Everybody needs a space to speak freely with their peers and engage in debates that everyone may not agree on. There are also many who don't feel safe in their environment who need social media to find a safe space. Thank you for teaching responsibility to your students, but please remember these points when doing so.

Dr. Quadragon ❌

@BsCreativeLife human brain is very stupid about how it uses social media, so it's a skill that must be taught.

@Sheril

Rufus T. Firefly

@BsCreativeLife @Sheril It's just useful advice. Take it or leave it, your choice. It's not an order.

kmz

@Sheril @elisegravel or for the simpler Socratic filter: Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Lamont Sky

@zoerhoff @Sheril @elisegravel
That nicely sums up what I would call the basis for right speech, leading to happiness for oneself and others.

Thank you for reminding me of good old Socrates!

trio

@zoerhoff

I have "Is it true... kind... necessary?" as a quote from Siddhartha Buddha. -> I did some research... Buddha, Socrates, Bernard MELTZER... Until a real researcher tells me, i'll just call it "wisdom".

Chozo

@Sheril@mastodon.social @elisegravel@mastodon.online The question most commenters seem to ask themselves: "Will this get me boosts?"

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@Sheril @elisegravel i'll be sure to take this into advisement the next time HimmlerFan88 sends me a slur

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@Sheril 3 πŸ‘πŸΎ and 5 πŸ‘πŸΎ

kinyutaka

@Sheril @elisegravel

So ... If the answer is yes, then post in all caps?

Ulrich

@Sheril @elisegThe people who are to be reached do the following:
1. they do not read it
2. when they read it, they don't understand it.
3. if they read it and understand it, they don't want it.
ravel@mastodon.online
(Translated by a machine from German)

jamie hill πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

@Sheril @elisegravel there’s a three step test that i give myself all of the time:

- does it need to be said
- does it need to be said right now
- does it need to be said right now by me

only posting if you can answer yes to all three is a good gut check in potentially sensitive situations πŸ–€

pon

@hilljam @Sheril @elisegravel I would never post anything anymore if I went by those guidelines

James M.

@Sheril @elisegravel oh wow, I didn't realize she's over here! She's great! 😊 Such wonderful wisdom in playful form. Thanks for posting this nice one.

wanderernomad

@Sheril @elisegravel
An important one that helped me recently against what sounds like "bait": Am I trying to explain very basic knowledge? Does this person sound like they are trying to ignore generally agreed upon ideas in favor of sounding controversial? I often refrain from commenting when the answer to those questions is "yes".

Sabrina Web :privacypride:

@Sheril @elisegravel
8 - is my comment an unsolicited advice? I know that not everybody is fine with that

Tiffany Parfait

@Sheril @elisegravel YES !! this is actually a very good set of rules should've been like one of the posters they put on the computer labs we played at in my ye ol schools

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@Sheril Think well before you shut up πŸ˜‰

Sir Jo

@Sheril @elisegravel

Good advice! But sometimes it is just when you don't follow the rules when things are getting interesting.

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Sudhir Virulkar

@Sheril. Happy to see you back πŸ™‚πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸŒΉπŸ™

StarkRG

@Sheril @elisegravel #4 "Would I be ok with my comment if it was made public" seems superfluous since it literally *is* public.

nGFX

@Sheril

@elisegravel

I'd call that "common sense" β€” alas, it's a dying art form.

pickscrape

@Sheril @elisegravel Add "Would anyone else really care about what I have to say?" to that list, and that's basically the list of why rarely post anything.

Lucilla Piccari

@Sheril @elisegravel often after writing a post I ask myself these questions... and then erase πŸ˜… (especially the public thing)

Jamie Mason

@Sheril @elisegravel

Love this! I wish we didn't have to write how-to's to treat people with respect, but I suppose that is the way of the world anymore..

Jamie

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