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Ertain

@gamingonlinux In this case, piracy may be a necessary evil for watching the lost content.

Edit: apparently, I struck a nerve with this toot.

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Jordan Kendrick :nixos:

@Ertain @gamingonlinux If purchasing isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.

FoolishOwl

@jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux Part of what's terrible is that most digital storage media has a short lifespan, but copying it validates the copy, so the most reliable way to preserve digital data is to distribute it widely and keep copying it regularly.

We need piracy to preserve culture.

Jordan Kendrick :nixos:

@foolishowl @Ertain @gamingonlinux In order to preserve it in any meaningful fashion, you’re right.

Jean-Baptiste "JBQ" Quéru

@jordan_kendrick @foolishowl @Ertain @gamingonlinux That's definitely what we're seeing in retrogaming, the deep catalog of old computer games only survives today as a result of earlier piracy efforts.

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@foolishowl @jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux It also emits less CO2 to watch a DVD than to stream, and if the content held on DVD is re-watched then you begin to justify the CO2 costs of the plastic (no longer single use). And, we would need to add in a proportion of the server hardware/plastic used in streaming, for fairness.

Sylvain Drapeau

@foolishowl

Not trying to start an argument here, your comment just made me think of something I read earlier.

The British, who notoriously stole loads of culturally significant artefacts through conquests, refuse to return said stolen goods to their rightful owners on the basis of "preserving human culture".

Of course, piracy as "copying" is not like stealing the unique copy of something. But I thought the two close enough to be worth mentioning.

@jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux

FoolishOwl

@axnxcamr @jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux That's an interesting point.

In this context, there is a history of artists getting burned. The corporations don't care about them any more than they care about anyone else. Probably most people pirating digital culture don't feel any personal responsibility to support artists, but some of us do, and we need to look for ways to do that and encourage others to take up that responsibility as well.

WearyBonnie

@jordan_kendrick
This is a sublime sentence - would it be okay with you if I add it to my little collection of "phrases I'd like to cross stitch one day"?
I usually do that by adding a screenshot to a Pinterest board, but if you'd prefer not to be screenshot on Pinterest I could just use a private text note.

Melanie (they, she)

@3TomatoesShort @jordan_kendrick i thought the same thing!

The writing, I mean, mot the cross stitch.

veetee

@3TomatoesShort in the spirit of the statement and this thread, I think you just can just take this phrase in order that it be preserved :ablobcatwave:
@jordan_kendrick

Dave C.

@jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux Reminds me of all of those DVD commercials that ended in own it today. Then the DVD comes with a viewing license disclaimer. You never owned it.

Jean Helou ⌨️

@jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux not sure about other countries, in France digital content piracy is not stealing, it's counterfeiting. That is only an offense if you actually share your copy with others, especially if you make money out of that sharing.

Jean Helou ⌨️

@jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux also you never bought the digital content if it has any form of DRM. You rented a limited license to access the content.

cultdev

@jordan_kendrick @Ertain @gamingonlinux the best axiom i’ve ever heard on this subject 👍

Ertain

@cultdev Wow, I didn't know that statement was considered an axiom. The more you know™.🌠

Skoobie❄️

@Ertain
Piracy is the only time tested solution to preservation of media. Fuck what capitalism tries to tell us.
@gamingonlinux

young man yells at the cloud

@Ertain @gamingonlinux to paraphrase @rms: If someone asks me my opinion about piracy, I will tell them "attacking ships is bad -- we should send the navy." Sharing is caring.

jdrch 🇺🇦

@Ertain @gamingonlinux because you're correct. My policy has always been if something isn't affordable or convenient I have absolutely no qualms about acquiring it from sources

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