Gregory's Server@grishka Why did you leave Russia? Did something happen? Is there anything we can do to help you from Ukraine?
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Gregory
@danilax86 @Distante с такими людьми бесполезно спорить, они всё равно будут считать, что все русские коллективно виноваты во всех грехах российского государства, и должны быть за это наказаны 
Distante
@danilax86 @grishka Today, the terrorist organisation "Russia" even shows that it violates the basic rights of people at home, which is ironic
Gregory
@Distante @danilax86 you can't trust these kinds of statistics in a country where HAVING A CERTAIN OPINION is a punishable offense. > More companies should leave the market of a terrorist state to avoid financing Russia Maybe other nation states should stop buying Russian gas and oil first. Those taxes are a drop in the ocean anyway, especially compared to the amount of inconvenience leaving companies cause to the general population.
Distante
@grishka @danilax86 Did everyone lie in the polls in 2008, too? That was when Navalny called Georgians rodents. Is Russian support for the occupation of Crimea also a lie, for example? What are you talking about? The interview for Spigel was given by a Russian expert, not a Ukrainian or the CIA. https://www.rferl.org/a/25409123.html Companies should leave the market of a terrorist state, and at the same time, countries should avoid buying gas, it's true
Gregory
@Distante @danilax86 Navalny is controversial. The rest of the opposition doesn't like him either. > Companies should leave the market of a terrorist state Again, this does not solve shit. It's virtue signaling. That's all it is. You just keep reiterating it without providing any concrete proof of how exactly will it help end the war. The "every little bit helps" approach that almost never works. I won't change your mind anyway, so I don't see any reason why this discussion should continue.
Distante
@grishka @danilax86 In Odesa, a Russian missile killed an entire family. If your company can avoid financing this missile, then you have done at least something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TggPA1rBAf4 It is clear that Russians do not care about the suffering of their country's victims. Nevertheless, leaving the terrorist market is the right thing to do today
Gregory
@Distante @danilax86 still a very theoretical idea that has very practical consequences. Also stop throwing links at me maybe. I'm not interested.
Distante
@grishka @danilax86 I'm just showing that my words are not emotional "zero Russians support the war, let's stop the sanctions as if nothing is happening", but something real. I think I have confirmed most of my theses. Russia is a terrorist state. Companies should stop doing business there, and at the same time, countries should stop buying gas. Most Russians openly support the war. Just as they supported the killing of Georgians and the occupation of Crimea
Gregory
@Distante @danilax86 "a Russian missile killed an entire family" is as emotional as it gets. Stop repeating the same phrase. You got your point across. Now try understanding mine, maybe. Imagine your utilities getting shut off because one of your neighbors is a bad person.
Distante
@grishka @danilax86 The amount of suffering caused by each (!) Russian missile is enormous. It is normal to want fewer of them. Any sane person would support the fact that the terrorist state of Russia has less money. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62181726 Also, the population of Russia should start to suspect that something is wrong with their country. It's strange to live as if everything is fine
Gregory
@Distante @danilax86 it's not strange to live as if everything is fine when you have zero influence on the situation. The only thing you can do is endanger yourself.
Distante
@grishka @danilax86 Companies leaving the terrorist market will have a direct effect and the Russian people will see that something is happening
Gregory
@Distante @danilax86 and? We do see that something is happening. We can't act on it whether the companies are leaving or not.
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@grishka @Distante @danilax86 Who "we"? All people are different. Someone sees, someone still doesn't. Someone sees but is glad and wants more Ukrainian blood. The point is not to make russian people do something (we've already learned that 140 millions of russians apparently can't or don't want to get rid of one guy and that won't change anytime soon). The point is to make it physically impossible for the russian economy to continue war.
Distante
@grishka @danilax86 I'm just getting confirmation of the words of a Russian expert on this topic. "Russians Have Little Compassion for the Ukrainians" |
@Distante I did not leave Russia, Spotify did