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CB

@aral

Response to 1. Oh good God no!
Response to 2. Oh this looks promising

lofi beast to relax/study to

@aral forgejo [the codeberg software] looks nice from outside, and says it wants federated gits, somehow. Disroot adopted it a while back after gitea? I've been looking for somewhere new, that might work.

@thomasfuchs wonders if there's anywhere with a front/centre "no AI bullshit" pledge, and so do I hachyderm.io/@thomasfuchs/1113

maegul

@aral

> Every day, the world’s developers balance an unsustainable demand to both modernize the legacy code of yesterday and build our digital tomorrow. It is our guiding conviction to make it easier for developers to do it all, … with GitHub Copilot deeply integrated into the developer experience.
>
> Let’s jump into this new reality.

So without blinking: capitalism is killing you, so we went ahead and made that easier and faster.

@aral

> Every day, the world’s developers balance an unsustainable demand to both modernize the legacy code of yesterday and build our digital tomorrow. It is our guiding conviction to make it easier for developers to do it all, … with GitHub Copilot deeply integrated into the developer experience.
>
> Let’s jump into this new reality.

The Witch of Crow Briar

@aral "Just as GitHub was founded on somebody else's version control system, today we are refounded on everybody else's code"

GunChleoc

@aral When people copy/paste code from Stackoverflow, they at least have the option of reading the comments and having some context to it, and alternative suggestions to choose from.

Good luck finding any bugs that this AI thing produces. You'll need code reviewer level skills for that while not really learning anything to actually acquire those skills.

Konstantin

@aral Mozilla really missed an opportunity to remind the world their slogan is not just marketing but they decided to go GitHub anyway. Nothing against GitHub but it’s the opposite of “fair and open” and “people powered”.

Aral Balkan

@konstantin So is Mozilla, which only exists thanks to half a billion dollars from Google every year, has a venture capital arm, and an AI programme of its own. As their head of public policy once told me: “Aral, we’re just another Silicon Valley tech company, I don’t understand why you’re holding us to a such a higher standard.”

Konstantin

@aral So well said! zilla is like one of those Easter decorations someone forgot in store front that's lost its colours from the sun - you can't even read what it says any more, a clutter you don't notice unless you focus really hard.

Mikka

@aral Am I the only one who is more peed off that everyone is copying Apple's "here's everything new in boxes" presentation style than about the actual product?

kæt

@mikka @aral That guy who invented desktop widgets, they still come in everyday. One day they'll show everyone they were right all along. 😄

digitalCalibrator (she/her)

@aral codeberg? Oh, the site that wouldn't let me use my github oauth because that account uses my gmail. All I wanted to do was submit a bug report to a repo. I tried to request manual confirmation, but never got a response. 🤷‍♀️

Fred

@aral Codeberg is great. But a honourable mention has to go to Gitlab if you ask me. It has all the relevant features, a solid UI and does no weird stuff. :)

Annika Backstrom

@aral I got *two* copilot reminder emails to my work email yesterday (I marked them as spam out of spite)

Mathieu Comandon

@aral github is just a git remote and free bandwidth to host binaries. We're not migrating to some other service that would probably not offer massive amounts of storage while disrupting years of issue tracking just because MS is running out of ideas to implement. That would be shooting ourselves in the foot.

Arch :arch:

@mathieucomandon @aral Yeah it’s tough. GitHub operates at a stupid scale that the likes of Codeberg can’t match. I’ve seen conversations around moving nixpkgs to Coderg or a self hosted Forgejo instance but logistically it’s impossible without a larger company sponsoring the technical work and costs.

:blahaj: Why Not Zoidberg? 🦑

@aral Observation from a non-developer: just reading that blog it seems whoever writes it insists on mixing up "GitHub" the platform and "Developers" the profession with headlines like "Developers adapt AI" etc.

Jonas Vautherin

@aral As another alternative, I started using #sourcehut and the git email workflow, and I really like it.

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