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April King

me: hey big companies, can I download all of your copyrighted movies and music and images in case one inspires me to make something someday?

big companies: lol no get rekt

also big companies: btw we're downloading and using all of your copyrighted works to stuff into our machine learning models

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April King

@lcamtuf it seems really nice, someone should give me more of it

John Philip Bell

@april @lcamtuf
@mdarweesh

I think more important than the 'money' or 'without reading' aspect it's the "he who writes the contract": consumers have no choice as to the contents of the contracts they enter into.

Michael Darweesh ☑️

@john_philip_bell @april @lcamtuf People as a society have the power to make a choice. But the collective will isn't there.

And, yes, individual consumers have only poor choices.

lcamtuf :verified: :verified: :verified:

@john_philip_bell @april @mdarweesh I didn't sign any contracts with OpenAI, Google, or Facebook that would give them rights to what I post on my blog.

LAF and LOVE

@john_philip_bell @april @lcamtuf @mdarweesh I am reminded of a NY Times article of a murder at least 50 yrs ago. The article said the woman was attacked in her kitchen with a “craving knife.”
Consumers are victims of the corporate craving knives which obliterate any contract desires.

jbaggs

@april and also: lol get rekt.

Like this thing with OpenAI making the statement they will pay people's legal bills if they run into trouble using their LLM. Sorry folks, just going to use our war chest to siphon money upwards.

Steffen Christensen

@jbaggs @april I did notice that in the text. Expensive way to go bankrupt, I guess?

jbaggs

@Wikisteff @april I think they're aiming for any cases being chances to set precedent that copyright doesn't apply to AI, or not in the same way.

Michael Darweesh ☑️

@april TBF, they did put terms that cover this into that long TOS that you clicked OK without reading.

PPN

@april I look forward to spread the idea of poisoning their machine learning models with misinformation about people, wrong definition, bad quality arts, heinous/outrageous/racist opinions and other garbage ideas.

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@ppn @april They are doing it themselves, which is likely to create a feedback loop and will poison future models, you just have to sit and wait.
semafor.com/article/06/16/2023

Piddlesworth

@ppn @april I think you just described the internet

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@april Also big companies (well, really just Disney): we're mining public domain works for ideas because we have no creativity whatsoever and then when we create our own shitty watered-down interpretation of that work, we'll lobby the government for decades to protect our copyrighted remake of source material that went out of copyright before anyone alive today was born

LAF and LOVE

@luna @april Very funny. I was a naive independent producer in Hollywood many many years ago. I pitched a project to Disney with A-list talent attached. The lawyer who helped me with it said, “Disney will just steal it. “ Like I said, I was naive. That is exactly what happened. Lesson learned. “MINING” is not limited.

Angie 🇵🇸🇺🇦

@april "I'm not sampling, I'm 'listening'. I'm 'learning musical theory'."

A. C. Rusinov

@april I am about SICK about these worthless parasites. It's OK if they do it, but don't let them catch you as much as sneezing near a pirated garbanzo 'cause they'll burn your house down.

Also... Just so you know, there's a thing called Nightshade, it poisons AI generative models to never function correctly again. If you're interested, look it up, we CAN fight against these parasites!

Jason Player

@april Sure, give us a livable UBI to compensate us all.

Shirley Eugest

@april Exactly. The power of having more cash for lawyers.

mirabilos

@april I argue that the latter weighs even more.

When my copyrighted works are published under BSD/MIT/… licences, they are made available to the average folk with attribution being basically the only “remuneration”. That’s not a lot and easily given by the recipients, so failing to do so weighs worse than failing a part of one of the more complex licences, both copyleft and EULA sides.

ML/LLM/so-called “AI” naturally drops that very attribution by compressing lossily, mixing, and decompressing the inputs. So therefore I’m very much not okay with them using my works under current circumstances.

@april I argue that the latter weighs even more.

When my copyrighted works are published under BSD/MIT/… licences, they are made available to the average folk with attribution being basically the only “remuneration”. That’s not a lot and easily given by the recipients, so failing to do so weighs worse than failing a part of one of the more complex licences, both copyleft and EULA sides.

Alexandra Magin 🏳️‍🌈

@april I'm like, Just let me fucking screenshot your video player so I can make silly memes which will inevitably cause more people to actually watch your content.

UsuallyAnnoyed

@april “my lawyer can beat up your lawyer”

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@april

It's how they assert a hegemony, they being the Ideal Polity who control cultural discourse, and to that effect, democracy itself. Cultural discourse becomes the Territorial Aspiration, and anyone who dissents to their rule is invisibilized following Agamben's reconceptualization of Schmitt. A kind of latent Conflict-Framing against resistors whom they can frame with flak.

Lastly it strongly resembles the media strategy under the Putin Regime. Follow the money and you'll find Treason.

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@april Just because they say I can't doesn't mean I won't (for legal reasons, this is a joke).

Andy

@april The worst thing, is that this is the reality. All my data is being kept "hostage" @ Facebook, because i refuse to accept their new terms in Europe, and there's no way i'm paying them to stop doing so either, because i bet we will see a "scandal" in the future, where someone leaks intel about their "dark secret private data profiling". I just don't trust big tech companies like them. I guess i never truly have been lol 😅

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@april when a corporation says no, they mean yes. You actually have permission to download everythint you want of theirs and they can't actually do anything about it.

0ddj0bb

@april yeah now more than ever piracy is sooooo legit

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