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networkException

@matrix a very bad sign for the whole ecosystem I fear :/

I hope this benefits independent implementations more in the end, mature homeservers made by the community

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networkException

@matrix to be fair, the fork in itself reflects reality and is very fair - element has (always) been the main force behind development.

Still taking ownership of the project entirely is pretty bad. It changes synapse (lefts face it, dendrite has been degraded to a playground) from being the forefront of a free, open source messaging ecosystem to an asset of the company, in the hope to get people to pay for developing it further I assume.

April @ c3soft

@networkexception @matrix good I had the plans to implement a direct messaging feature into iceshrimp and thus activitypub, making us able to just send end to end encrypted chats over here. might be the more mature ecosystem actually than matrix

networkException

@matrix this ecosystem as a whole is way too dependent on element. This might be the wake up call? I really dont want it to die, at least some version meant for interoperability of huge companies will probably survive given the IETFs MIMI efforts but we would loose the tiny bit of free, partly (mostly?) self hosting community driven instant messaging infrastructure

Softwarewolf

@networkexception @matrix Seirdy ( @Seirdy ) touched on this same concern in one of their blog posts a while back, and I share this concern as well. When Matrix was first announced I thought it was a bright spot in the darkness of walled-off IM services; with this move now I'm even less sure about that.

seirdy.one/posts/2021/02/23/ke

The Matrix.org Foundation

@networkexception Yes, there's broad agreement internally and externally that we want to see an ecosystem that has a more diverse contributor base and fundamentally doesn't hinge so much on a single vendor.

Leon

@networkexception @matrix Yes, I think that if there's one takeaway from this, its that the sole focus on Element/Synapse around the ecosystem is quite terrible. The fact that I need to feel worried reading this announcement concerning the continued development of a set of homeserver implementations means that the "protocol" aspect of Matrix clearly isn't embraced sufficiently.

The Matrix.org Foundation

@networkexception While we hope that Element's decision has the intended impacts for them and the broader ecosystem, we do also hope this shines a spotlight on the rest of the ecosystem.

We want to see a world in which the Matrix ecosystem includes multiple stable, popular open source implementations of servers and clients.

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