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Ryan Robinson

@mbonsma
Lots of assuming the most extreme scenarios in the replies. I don't think you're suggesting we jump in front of cars at the last second to dance in the middle of the road and then sue them when we get hit.

But I don't think it's great that I can't walk through an intersection without waiting 3 minutes for a car at a stop sign to give me eye contact while I wear layers of bright clothes.

Big difference between inviting danger then playing the victim vs daring to exist in public.

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Daniel Brotherston

@Ryan @mbonsma

Yeah, I know the replies were going to be a shit show.

It's sad...most people in the replies could visit the Netherlands, experience what is described, and then immediately claim, it is impossible on the flight home. People don't even get it when they experience it.

Ryan Robinson

@danbrotherston @mbonsma Experience is a lot of it. If you only ever drive in car-centric societies, you probably only have those few stories of that person who wandered onto the street, which is legitimately scary, and that's what your brain jumps to assuming when you see posts like this. But you completely miss how scary being a pedestrian is, or how frustrating it is hear things like it is our fault we got hit crossing the sidewalk at a stop sign because we weren't wearing bright clothes.

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