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@mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma If you can't look where you're walking, you deserve to fall into a manhole in the middle of the street.
It's a collaboration. Everybody follows the rules. You cannot expect to cross the street on a red light and not get hit.
Period.
Same goes for bicycles, motorcycles, cars, and trucks. Pedestrians don't get a free pass to do whatever they want.
But you knew all this. You're just trolling.

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Kevin Boyd

@MaierAmsden @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma "don't squish the delicate sacks of meat" should be the first rule of driving, but somehow isn't.

The first rule of driving is "don't hit other cars".

Maier Amsden

@kboyd @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma We all know "pedestrians have the right of way," but physics + reaction times = bad outcomes for inattentive jaywalkers.

Grumpy Grimnir :verified:

@MaierAmsden @kboyd @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma The very existence of the word "jaywalker" is a symptom of car-centric thinking. It literally didn't exist before cars. Car drivers and car manufacturers decided they should have priority and started criminalising crossing the road in unapproved places.

Maier Amsden

@grumpygrimnir @kboyd @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma If you don't want to die, you might want to occasionally engage in car-centric observations when stepping into a road where cars drive.

PedestrianError :vbus: :nblvt:

@kboyd @MaierAmsden @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma Is it? I thought the first rule was don’t slow down other drivers by doing silly things like yielding to pedestrians, obeying the speed limit, or slowing down for inclement weather conditions.

Kevin Boyd

@LouisIngenthron @MaierAmsden @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma yeah, but most of the time it seems to result in a slap on the wrist or a ticket - often, less than $500.

Louis Ingenthron

@kboyd @MaierAmsden @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma

Wait, you think accidentally killing people only results in a $500 ticket? You're gonna need to cite a source on that one, because we clearly don't live in the same world.

In my state, vehicular manslaughter is a second-degree felony.

Kevin Boyd replied to Louis

@LouisIngenthron @MaierAmsden @nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma I said squishing, I didn't say the degree of squishing involved. And many vehicle-on-pedestrian incidents fit my description of a slap on the wrist.

That said, I have personally known at least one person who has unintentionally killed someone with their car, and I don't think they even got a ticket.

Kevin Boyd replied to Louis

@LouisIngenthron I do have a bunch of links to news articles of "no charges filed in fatal accident", though I suspect that many of them are (to some degree) the correct call for the situation. But they serve to illustrate that "vehicular manslaughter" is not the panacea you suggest. Cars are still the chosen priority.

indystar.com/story/news/crime/

kingstonist.com/news/kingston-

cbc.ca/news/canada/british-col (motorcycles are dumb, though)

cbc.ca/news/canada/british-col

@LouisIngenthron I do have a bunch of links to news articles of "no charges filed in fatal accident", though I suspect that many of them are (to some degree) the correct call for the situation. But they serve to illustrate that "vehicular manslaughter" is not the panacea you suggest. Cars are still the chosen priority.

Twobiscuits

@nuncio @mariellequinton @mbonsma I think Manhole Guy who left it unprotected is gonna be on the hook for that one.

As for someone crossing on red, etc., as a driver I still have to do my best for them. Our (Austrian) rules of the road begins with (only a light paraphrase) "if you see anybody doing something obviously nutty on the street, slow the fuck down and stop, if you have to, to keep them safe".

Aaronetics :stealie:

@nuncio @mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma
Exactly. Any one part of a system can be the "problem" if you're not following the system. It's not about right vs wrong or cars vs peds, we ALL have responsibilities . "Our right to be distracted" is just dumb.

Steven Reed

@nuncio
While I agree cars are far and away the biggest danger, I find people in busy public spaces who are not paying attention to their surroundings a huge annoyance. If I had more significant disabilities / sensory impairments than I currently do, I suspect I would consider them an active danger.

Additionally cyclists, scooters, mobility scooters etc are also probably best not collided with, and often behave much less predictably than cars.
@mariellequinton @twobiscuits @mbonsma

@nuncio
While I agree cars are far and away the biggest danger, I find people in busy public spaces who are not paying attention to their surroundings a huge annoyance. If I had more significant disabilities / sensory impairments than I currently do, I suspect I would consider them an active danger.

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