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@mbonsma I completely disagree. You are responsible for your own conduct and your safety is no one's responsibility but yours. If you walk around oblivious to your surroundings something bad will happen to you and you deserve it. That said it's always possible for both sides to be wrong. It's wrong to be clueless twit walking across a parking lot while looking at your phone. It's also wrong for a driver to run that person over. 3 comments
@kctipton And people on foot or bicycles are responsible for *safely* navigating their environment. You do *not* have a right to do whatever the hell you want without consequences. @dfrancis The OP is talking about DEATH, not simple consequences. You are missing the point by trying so hard to make individuals completely responsible for whatever happens to them. If they live alone like the Unabomber, then yes I would agree with you, mostly. But this is in a _civilization_ where people affect the lives of other people. |
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@dfrancis Whaaat? Vehicle drivers are responsible for _safely_ driving their vehicles. Bike riders too. The roads and sidewalks aren't a deadly demolition derby for a reason. Now, if people walking travel right into other people or some obstacle, that'll self-correct without someone dying.