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EthicalTaxProfessor

@mbonsma

Correct, it is not the pedestrian that is the problem.

But will that matter to the dead pedestrian?

We *can* largely solve this through technology, but this is not the time to consider wholesale replacement of older vehicles.

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Magnus Ahltorp

@DrGeof @mbonsma
Yes, the technology has been around for quite a while. It’s called public transport and bicycles.

And if your transport system relies on fear of death for it to work, it’s not really a good transport system.

EthicalTaxProfessor

@ahltorp @mbonsma

Agreed. One caveat: Public transport may not be feasible in rural areas.

C. Lambeth

@DrGeof @ahltorp @mbonsma
And how many pedestrians are killed by vehicles in rural areas vs. metropolitan areas? 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️

Magnus Ahltorp

@DrGeof @mbonsma Bicycles are, given that cars aren’t running them off the roads, both literally and figuratively.

EthicalTaxProfessor

@ahltorp @mbonsma

But Bikes have their own limitations (December, January, February), depending on their geographic location and how quickly warming advances.

Right now I'm wondering if we will ever see another 'winter' season, and I live in Colorado.

argv minus one

@DrGeof @ahltorp @mbonsma

Public transport isn't even feasible in suburban areas, and city living is dystopian (high rent, abusive landlords, no green spaces, etc).

This whole conversation is nonsense. Cars may be bad, but as far as I know, all of the currently available alternatives are even worse.

Cătă

@DrGeof Bikes will always be feasible in rural areas

@ahltorp @mbonsma

Marcos Dione

@DrGeof @mbonsma no we can't, self driven cars should have proved that already.

argv minus one

@mdione @DrGeof @mbonsma

What a disappointment that was. Self-driving cars were supposed to put an end to traffic fatalities. Instead, they turned out to be even deadlier than human drivers. That was my first clue that AI isn't all it's hyped up to be.

EthicalTaxProfessor

@argv_minus_one @mdione @mbonsma

They were too early, and supported/advocated by people who didn't give a dam whether the technology worked. All they wanted was marks to target.

Even a casual view of any city's commuting traffic will reveal there are plenty of willing marks.

EthicalTaxProfessor

@mdione @mbonsma

Agreed, self-driving cars are not 'there' yet. But the technology needed is not necessarily self-driving.

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