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Rudi (ryjelsum)

i figure that this is worth a cross-website post:

some verification process that netflix has put in place to seemingly cut down on cross-household account sharing is a pretty significant photosensitive seizure risk, it sounds like

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Rudi (ryjelsum)

this is very much a tangent and besides the point so i'm not going to go poking at OP for information about what their network setup is like, but if their four different wifi networks are four routers all going to the same modem upstream then it sounds like netflix also might be sending the names of wifi networks or private ip addresses back to HQ which sketches me out but is not really surprising to me given the kind of lengths that netflix has been going to in order to cut down on account sharing

e: just want to emphasize that this is very much theoretical, and i don't really have a way to test it myself

this is very much a tangent and besides the point so i'm not going to go poking at OP for information about what their network setup is like, but if their four different wifi networks are four routers all going to the same modem upstream then it sounds like netflix also might be sending the names of wifi networks or private ip addresses back to HQ which sketches me out but is not really surprising to me given the kind of lengths that netflix has been going to in order to cut down on account sharing

rj

@rudi well _this_ is relevant to my interests

Rudi (ryjelsum)

@arrjay i would be interested in testing it out myself to see what exactly they're looking for but i don't think we even have an active netflix account in the family right now

rj

@rudi I think we largely watch via PC intermediation so I'm curious if this is something the app is doing, yeah

Rudi (ryjelsum)

@arrjay i was thinking the same thing, wondering if it's only something they can really do as an android/ios app. kind of why i don't like company specific 'apps'

rj

@rudi and _in theory_ ios is not supposed to reveal network information, so...yeah this is an unreliable signal at best.

(there's also an entire book of "what makes a family" in here but I suspect you're aware.)

Rudi (ryjelsum)

@arrjay my thought is, given how OP's network setup sounds a little bit screwy they might have misfired something that's intended to differentiate 'households' behind a cg-nat setup or something like that. but these things are always intentionally a little bit opaque

13 barn owls in a trench coat

@rudi @arrjay it's okay with four discrete Wi-Fi APs, correctly NAT'ed, which we have now that we have fibre, but we used to have four routers, each connected to its own 4G modem, and I bet that would have set off whatever OP triggered.

I can only speak to Netflix France, but it sounds like OP and I have similarly inconvenient-to-network rural architecture.

rj

@HauntedOwlbear @rudi *looks over at 4G sticks*

oh, I could use some QoS to deliver a _really_ bad time.

Tony Petrangelo

@rudi also besides the point, their WiFi sucks *because* they have four different WiFi networks.

Jess๐Ÿ‘พ

@rudi I suspect it's to attempt to catch people who VPN from their own house to the house of the subscriber in order to watch movies without being caught. The technical details of how they do that seem sketchy as fuck, though.

Mike Myers

@JessTheUnstill @rudi lol this is me. I set up a site-2-site from the main house to the vacation house so it showed as one network and havenโ€™t had any issues. I also donโ€™t broadcast WiFi names so unless theyโ€™re trying to grab BSSIDs they arenโ€™t grabbing that either.

Riedler

@rudi the funny thing is that they're probably using money to make less money here. I used to use someone's netflix account occasionally before they cracked down on password sharing. Now I just don't use netflix anymore. Their loss :blobCat_shrug:โ€‹

keschi / cache :blobCat_in_box:

@rudi When piracy has better UX, a shitty company can fuck off :)

Becky

@rudi @renbymon

What delapidated fuck waffle thought THAT was a good fucking idea?!?!

P J Evans

@Beckydog @rudi @renbymon
It isn't like no one there would ever have heard about strobe-induced seizures. I hope.

Kevan

@rudi @sclower I just opened Netflix, my dad and I share accounts, he lives in a different state and it works fine for watching and everything.

Jargoggles

@rudi
And capitalism is giving you a seizure.

Shadow D. Wolf :therian:๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

@rudi Good thing i canceled my Netflix sub back when they were caught downsizing a bunch of their LGBTQ staff a few years ago.

JW prince of CPH

@rudi also, yet another example of what software engineers think are open-and-shot categories... aren't. Like, no service provider should get to dictate how many wifi networks you have for whatever reason that is none of their fucking business.

Fox

@jwcph @rudi I don't think this was a software engineer decision, not at all. I think this was a corporate decision to try and squeeze more money out of consumers.

Riedler

@rudi piracy foreverr :blahaj_pirate:โ€‹

Andrea, Bayou's Temptress

@rudi Absolutely sounds like this should be a lawsuit to me.

Taureon

@rudi did no one at netflix think about this for more than 5 seconds at all???

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@rudi@tech.lgbt my torrent client has never given me a seizure, y'know

Sparky ๐Ÿ’ก

@rudi Fuck Netflix for making that process literally seizure-inducing. Fuck them. I hope OP's partner recovered from Netflix's assault.

But on a sidenote: ...were they using other people's/public WiFis or what's up with this "We have four WiFis, all of them suck" lark?

GlaireDaggers

@rudi hm, I'd be interested in seeing if there's footage of this. Might have been a bug rather than intentional, tbh I've never heard of taking video of a QR sequence like that (a single code would normally suffice, and almost certainly easier to implement)
The website also doesn't seem to have any mention of a process like that fwiw

Paul Gill Rider

@rudi After twenty-some years (I think) with #Netflix, I deleted my account this year and have never looked back!

Luna

@rudi and companies wonder why piracy is starting to come back

Luna

@rudi not that it ever went away, just that its becoming more common

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