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Jost :thisisfine: 🔥

@thunderbird @matrix
The matrix chat implementation really doesn't feel ready to ship yet. Maybe it should be flagged as beta or something. Just to adjust expectations, e.g. if I wouldn't use Thunderbird and would try that feature, I would probably delete Thunderbird immediately seeing how features are shipped and advertised even while being in such a poor state.

Sorry for the negativity, just my opinion. Using only the Mail feature I love Thunderbird so far.

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Graham Perrin

@alemann @thunderbird @matrix correct me, please, if I'm wrong: when I last looked at Thunderbird support for Matrix, it was still acknowledged as beta (or words to that effect).

In any case: last month's <matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix> is well worth reading. In particular:

"… As a result, the vast majority of the heavy lifting can be handled in matrix-rust-sdk, ensuring that the app layer can focus on UI rather than Matrix guts - and performance improvements (e.g. roomlist caching and timeline caching) can all be handled in one place to the benefit of all clients using the SDK.

"This is a huge breakthrough …".

@alemann @thunderbird @matrix correct me, please, if I'm wrong: when I last looked at Thunderbird support for Matrix, it was still acknowledged as beta (or words to that effect).

In any case: last month's <matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix> is well worth reading. In particular:

"… As a result, the vast majority of the heavy lifting can be handled in matrix-rust-sdk, ensuring that the app layer can focus on UI rather than Matrix guts - and performance improvements (e.g. roomlist caching...

Jost :thisisfine: 🔥

@grahamperrin @thunderbird @matrix
I didn't see such acknowledgement. Maybe I just overlooked it. The releases still contain beta it seems. I just felt like it could use another disclaimer pop-up or something to lead the expectations in a direction.

Agreed, that might change a lot. My expectations were partly because I recently tried Element X which is also in a beta state but seems much more stable and smooth. Well, it uses the matrix-rust-sdk already so that's probably why.

Graham Perrin

@alemann yep, Element X is, relatively, amazingly fast, but one of the known issues is, for me, a showstopper.

wiki.freebsd.org/Matrix#Client

@thunderbird @matrix

Graham Perrin

/me waits for #Thunderbird to launch, to see whether integral help mentions #Matrix … no integral help, full stop.

A web page opens, I find my way to <support.mozilla.org/kb/thunder>.

@thunderbird I agree with @evilham, a note re: beta would be nice.

#Matrix #Thunderbird

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