blake shaw 🇵🇸
Its honestly ridiculous that so many people seem to think that if you maintain libraries in rust or clojure or typescript its "production software", regardless of whether its deployed in production, but if you maintain a library with the same functionality in any lisp thats not clojure its "a hobby", even if its an emacs package used every day by countless programmers. but then again, most production software is bad, and most things people put their heart and soul into tends to be good (: 8 comments
blake shaw 🇵🇸
I've looked at some cool C++ libraries by well known developers making use of Concepts, and they don't seem like the kind of projects their authors think of as hobby work. but I don't know of ANY company deploying C++ Concepts in production at the moment. I'm sure some C++ studios are, but not with code that other people will have to use yet.
Terrific, Giant Fox Monster!
@rml We’re starting to use concepts in the upstream version of my dayjob project, so it’ll be in production Eventually. 
Boarders
@rml the whole way of thinking and talking where there are reified concepts of “senior software engineers” and “best practices”, free-floating ideas of “beginner friendly” and “production quality”/“production ready”, along with a whole class of ever-changing meaningless truisms “actually abstractions are bad”, “actually comments are bad” “everything is a trade off”makes me despair - people are genuinely convinced there is something meaningful about all of the above and become very angry if you doubt the framing
Zelphir Kaltstahl
@boarders We probably would have gotten a few more great quotes out of that. A shame really. 
Hugo Estrada
@boarders @rml I read some years ago a piece that said that "best-practices" killed innovation and tech discussions because it is hard to disagree with "best." In reality most "best-practices" are whatever the cool kids are doing right now. If they switch to the opposite next week, so do "best-practices." It would be nice for people to be humble and say, "this is how we did it, and it worked ok for us" instead |
Gregory's Server
what corporations demand shouldn't be the metric of software quality. developer bitch and groan about mainstream software practices and then hate on anything that actually goes against the grain.