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ansuz / ऐरन

Thomas Lohninger of epicenter.works gave a talk at the recent chaos communication camp about what the EU is doing in this area:

media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57548-

he notes that the EU is working on some methods to do age verification without disclosing government id explicitly - some involving zero knowledge proofs - but he makes a few critical points:

1. the "digital wallet" system they are proposing is going to be a very high-value target with a fairly large attack surface

2. government-issued hardware wallets are not accessible to undocumented migrants

3. not everyone has a phone they can use for this purpose

(16a) says the age verification should be "non-discriminatory and accessible", but I don't see how that's possible given the points above without falling back to scans of government id

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ansuz / ऐरन

I'll keep reading so that I have an idea of what's to come if this passes, but I'm only on page 12 of 199 and there's no sign that things will get any better, so I'm not going to livetoot the whole read-through.

I'll just reiterate that the #chatControl legislation is an absolute shitshow.

The people pushing for this are either ignorant or malicious. They claim to want to protect the public, but their manner of doing so will very obviously harm large groups that are already marginalised.

ansuz / ऐरन

my last point for now is that while this particular legislation concerns the EU, it is a part of an international effort to expand surveillance.

There's similar efforts in a number of other countries. Even if you aren't a citizen or resident of one of those nations, you are most likely a user of at least one service that will be affected.

This legislation absolutely needs to get shut down now, because every such measure that passes makes it easier to enact similar ones in other nations.

drathir

@ansuz Finally someone logicaly thinking to stop tie everything to mobile phones (no matter if number or apps with madly sensitive permissions access)

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