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rob pike

The backslash file name separator on Windows still rankles after almost 40 years. It just looks wrong, unbalanced, tippy.

But even worse is that in common parlance now, \ is often called slash and / backslash.

Microsoft will never be forgiven for promulgating this affront.

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rob pike

On the other hand, our Bell Labs softball team was called the Backslashes, and our team jersey had a backslash on the front and a slash on the back. Nerd sports FTW.

🦠Toxic Flange🔬⚱️🌚

@robpike if it was the Brits who conceptualized it instead it would be stroke and backstroke .. oh the jokes !

Weasel

@robpike

At Locus we made T-shirts for our LOCUS operating system (single-system image clustered OS based on 4.1 BSD):

On the front it said "Better Living Through Transparency"; on the back were the same words in mirror image.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOCUS

Brian Reiter

@robpike perhaps the original sin was using / as the command switch indicator in MS DOS 1.0 and that pushed them to use \ for the directory separator in MS DOS 2.0 in order to keep / as the unambiguous switch indicator and maintain backward compatibility when they “copied” UNIX hierarchical directories (sort-of).

Tim Bray

@robpike When recorded voices read URLs, they say “forward slash”.

rob pike

@timbray That's like calling the Olympic event the "hundred-meter forward dash".

Pete Keen

@robpike @timbray I always preferred "whack" rather than backslash. "D colon whack documents whack spec vee six final dot doc" implies the violence that it rightly deserves.

MarkD

@robpike @timbray Y'all remember when they first advertised URLs on broadcast TV?

I distinctly recall a mid-90s ad from Ford which literally said:
Haich Tee Tee Pee Double Dot Forward Slash Forward Slash Double-U Double U double-U dot ...etc

They spelled out "Forward Slash" presumably because the target market were Windows users who traditionally believe that the "One True Slash" is the backslash.

Presumably the spelled out colon as "Double Dot" so as not to offend genteel folk and chilluns.

@robpike @timbray Y'all remember when they first advertised URLs on broadcast TV?

I distinctly recall a mid-90s ad from Ford which literally said:
Haich Tee Tee Pee Double Dot Forward Slash Forward Slash Double-U Double U double-U dot ...etc

They spelled out "Forward Slash" presumably because the target market were Windows users who traditionally believe that the "One True Slash" is the backslash.

John Blair

@robpike I read once that the choice of backslash was to obscure the similarity of DOS to CP/M. Is there any truth to that?

soaproot

@robpike Personally I tend to blame the situation on the invention of backslash in the first place. I wasn't there for it, but I gather it was a hack so that /\ (slash followed by backslash) would look like ∧ (logical conjunction symbol). Perhaps there is more known about the history but based on my limited reading, there wasn't any such character until that time (certainly not with any widespread usage).

Mᴀʀᴋ VᴀɴᴅᴇWᴇᴛᴛᴇʀɪɴɢ

@robpike I must be out of the loop: I have never heard anyone swap the meaning of slash and backslash, but now I have heard of the possibility, I think retirement is my only option.

Philip Mallegol-Hansen

@robpike I haven’t personally heard anyone refer to / as backslash.

\ is backslash, / is slash or forward slash.

Steve Dunham

@robpike I blame IBM: "Most of these are
due to last minute changes to achieve a greater degree of compatibility
with IBM's implementation of MS-DOS (PC DOS). This includes the use
of "\" instead of "/" as the path separator, and "/" instead of "-"
as the switch character."

github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS/bl

Rachel Rawlings

@robpike Every time I hear a DJ say "backslash" when reading a URL, a little more of my faith in humanity erodes away.

Arne Jørgensen

@robpike I remember back 29 years ago when I had my first struggles with LaTeX. I struggled for a long time to typeset a backslash. Only to discover, once I succeeded, that I actually just needed a regular slash 🙃

Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

@robpike Only heard that once by someone. Is this a US IT thing?

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