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irina πŸŒ·πŸ‡

@kkarhan @fwam even if the problems are caused by MS Word or .docx files, they are the standard, so a FOSS solution has to neatly slot in to work as a viable replacement.

If I send documents to someone and it looks messed up on their machine because I used LibreOffice and MS Word couldn't handle it, it's just gonna look like I messed up. (there are solutions to this - sending as a pdf - and I never had that many issues personally)

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@irina @fwam Well, then I just refuse tofollow a shitty standard.

#OpenDocument works with everything and #OOXML doesn't.

I also use #PDF if I want a consistent layout or something people should just fill out like a form.

#ProblemSolved.

If we always oriented #tech on a shitty standard, we'd have #SquareWheels on cars because circles are harder to make accurately....
youtube.com/watch?v=XFrLzAgOkj

See the [allegedly Ford] quote of the "faster horses"...

@irina @fwam Well, then I just refuse tofollow a shitty standard.

#OpenDocument works with everything and #OOXML doesn't.

I also use #PDF if I want a consistent layout or something people should just fill out like a form.

#ProblemSolved.

If we always oriented #tech on a shitty standard, we'd have #SquareWheels on cars because circles are harder to make accurately....
youtube.com/watch?v=XFrLzAgOkj

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@kkarhan here's the thing

the standard is as shitty on both sides

OOXML barely works on LibreOffice, and ODT barely works on M$

Generally, both standards are shit, because they're overmade, heavily.

But the thing is, you can't just β€žrefuse” to use a standard widely used in industry, because that'd be absurd.

PDFs are the closest to doing shit, but it's basically read-only. Unless you want just forms, but... that's not what PDFs are for, anyway.

If you need collab work, you just have to use M$, unless the employer you're working for is using a different standard.

Personally, I use md anyway, the easiest to maintain, the most idiot-proof

@kkarhan here's the thing

the standard is as shitty on both sides

OOXML barely works on LibreOffice, and ODT barely works on M$

Generally, both standards are shit, because they're overmade, heavily.

But the thing is, you can't just β€žrefuse” to use a standard widely used in industry, because that'd be absurd.

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