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MaybeMyMonkeys

@Susan60 @mo we are willingly to be judged for our actions, they are not. That is the difference.

cat static

@Susan60 @mo Exactly. The comparisons to WW2 fail because: This is not a traditional land war and cannot be. This is The Troubles, American-style. The fascists are and have been begging the left to meet them with violence and abandon democratic institutions. Fucking dumb. (you could have just said you don't understand what any of this means, novatorine)

novatorine πŸ΄πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

@cat_static @Susan60 @mo oh yeah, because democratic institutions are a real good defense against fascism (or somehow inherently legitimate lmfao) and "Traditional Land Wars" are somehow morally better than direct action. Fuck off lmfao

Susan60

@cat_static @mo The communists got down & violent with the fascists in pre Nazi Germany, & democracy failed because it was so new & not up to the serious challenges of post WWI. Democracy has worked relatively well in the UK (but debatably in recent years) because it evolved so slowly. Australia & NZ followed suit. The focus on individual rights &freedom in the USA has undermined the notion of citizen responsibilities. A passive citizenry allows extremists of all sorts to rise up.

cat static

@Susan60 @mo πŸ’― perfect breakdown. I'd only add that the U.S. battles are being fought in the courts; if people pay attention they'll see how we win the war. democracydocket.com/

Susan60

@cat_static @mo Yes, I’m hoping Republican judges & juries will take their responsibilities seriously. Rightly or wrongly, the US sets the tone for much of the western world. Trump & his ilk haven’t done any of us any favours.

novatorine πŸ΄πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

@Susan60 @mo it's not the abstract, vague tactics that one uses, scrubbed of all their specifics and their end goals, that determines whether someone is a fascist.

Azmar

@Susan60 @mo Fascists use violence to assert dominance against groups of people based purely on prejudice and sense of self-importance.

Violence against fascists is to make them: not do that.

(Or maybe you can try to have a reasonable and polite conversation with the hate-fueled skinheaded swastika-wearing crowd, after all, what's the last time that strategy DIDN'T work, right?)

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