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@Susan60 @mo Exactly. The comparisons to WW2 fail because: This is not a traditional land war and cannot be. This is The Troubles, American-style. The fascists are and have been begging the left to meet them with violence and abandon democratic institutions. Fucking dumb. (you could have just said you don't understand what any of this means, novatorine) @cat_static @Susan60 @mo oh yeah, because democratic institutions are a real good defense against fascism (or somehow inherently legitimate lmfao) and "Traditional Land Wars" are somehow morally better than direct action. Fuck off lmfao @cat_static @mo The communists got down & violent with the fascists in pre Nazi Germany, & democracy failed because it was so new & not up to the serious challenges of post WWI. Democracy has worked relatively well in the UK (but debatably in recent years) because it evolved so slowly. Australia & NZ followed suit. The focus on individual rights &freedom in the USA has undermined the notion of citizen responsibilities. A passive citizenry allows extremists of all sorts to rise up. @Susan60 @mo 💯 perfect breakdown. I'd only add that the U.S. battles are being fought in the courts; if people pay attention they'll see how we win the war. https://www.democracydocket.com/ @cat_static @mo Yes, I’m hoping Republican judges & juries will take their responsibilities seriously. Rightly or wrongly, the US sets the tone for much of the western world. Trump & his ilk haven’t done any of us any favours. @Susan60 @mo Fascists use violence to assert dominance against groups of people based purely on prejudice and sense of self-importance. Violence against fascists is to make them: not do that. (Or maybe you can try to have a reasonable and polite conversation with the hate-fueled skinheaded swastika-wearing crowd, after all, what's the last time that strategy DIDN'T work, right?) @mo blunt objects like bats are not enough, we need sharp ass weapons and bullets that draw out plenty of blood @mo nononono... baseball bats are large, expensive and awkward. Use hammers! I recommend them highly. Four of my uncles were Antifa. Two of them landed at Normandy, and two of them fought in the Pacific. None of them were the least bit civil to the fascists they encountered. Happily, all four of them survived. I honor their memory. @mo OI POLLOI - Bash the Fash Ⓐ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CcOimOqDVM @mo cure for any-ism is: It won't work. They only have a baseball bat and no bricks... https://piped.video/watch?v=zB5Gf6osDWI |
@mo And then patted ourselves on our backs for having such a polite discussion about people's rights to live after ending by agreeing to disagree. We then let the nazis continue doing their thing because it was just a matter of polite disagreement.
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