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@JulianOliver can I contribute to the wiki without joining the server? I distribute edible perennial native seeds for plants that are pest resistant and whose crop isn’t sensitive to freak weather. East Coast NA, zone 9-6. I am also contributing to #ClimateChangeGardening to find and share solutions for home produce in the changing climate. 12 comments
 @JulianOliver @jblue if you're ok with people joining the mastodon server and leaving the account fully dormant and unused as a way to sidestep this requirement, which seems to be what you're suggesting to people who ask, then why bother making it a requirement at all? it's not like having an extra Mastodon account with you makes it any easier to enforce the rules. the additional sign-up steps and cognitive load of maintaining the extra unused account seem like an unnecessary barrier to entry. @JulianOliver @jblue gotta admit, I went from "oh cool I might contribute to that" to "oh hang on, what? that seems like busywork" pretty much instantly upon hearing the weird sign-up requirement. @gsuberland @JulianOliver I was thinking that if I reblogged certain posts/threads to the collapsible instance, Julian would know to add it to the wiki. Not everything I post from this account (mastodon.world) is relevant to collapsible wiki. @gsuberland @JulianOliver I think with hashtags, that puts a heavy burden on Julian to follow many different hashtags and comb through a lot of chaff. I think PM is also not such a great idea bc there is no wider discussion. If I post something about permaculture or a specific plant in zone 8/9, I want to hear from others how well it works from someone in zone 6. I can reblog a post and Julian can see the replies from other growers. @jblue @JulianOliver I guess? but why make that mandatory for everyone if it doesn't fit their workflow? like, just... let folks post stuff to the wiki if they want to contribute. make the mastodon server optional. @gsuberland @jblue We'll give it a go as is, build both community and wiki with Masto instance as campfire, roundtable. If folk want to contrib they will sign up. That seems to be happening. It's really important that the terms/rules are clicked through, a filter as it were, as this area of research and practice is prone to attract dangerously individualist and militarist interests and cultures. But thanks for your feedback! @JulianOliver @jblue *shrug*. this all seems like stuff that could be handled by a rules page on signup, and by moderating content submissions, without essentially turning it into "join my discord server but it's fedi this time". @JulianOliver @jblue anyway, I'll leave you to it. I'm too ADHD for this level of faff. @gsuberland @JulianOliver can see your frustration. For me, I will be too busy to write wikis and posting on mastodon will be there best way to accumulate knowledge and good advice about permaculture in a changing climate bc people sharing their experiences in replies that Julian can see. For instance, I can grow dwarf mangos in zone 8/9 east coast but PNW z8 cannot bc of late season cold nights, etc. I didn’t know this until I talked to a guy on here from WA. |
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@jblue That sounds amazing. For now we really want to ground the project in community, with the wiki abiding to the rules of membership of the Mastodon instance. What you can do though is create an account, and then in an app like Tusky, 'Add Account', so as to be able to fluidly switch between your mastodon.world account, and that of collapsible.systems. Nothing lost, much gained :-)