Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:
Are quote posts a feature you want? Anonymous poll
Poll
Yes
65
0%
No
29
0%
What are Quote Posts?
0 people voted. 7
0%
Voting ended 2 Sep 2023 at 18:31. 35 comments
Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:
@GGMcBG Not sure i understand? Quote posts are feature equivalent to Quote Tweets on Twitter. Basically you cite a post and comment on it.  
Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:
@pjohanneson I think search as I was advocating opt-out as opposed to opt-in. The poll for quote posts is still new though.
Patrick Johanneson ๐
@mike Yeah, I'm all for full-text search but I understand why others want it opt-in only at this point.
Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:
@pjohanneson I've already fought this war but I honestly don't get opt in. for the feature to work it needs a critical mass of posts. Just make it easy to opt out. Otherwise what are you searching, accounts that want to promote themselves?
Patrick Johanneson ๐
@mike I get it, I understand where you're coming from, but I'm also a cishet white middle-class dude who has never seen the torrent of abuse some people have suffered on The Other Sites. I'm willing to let the work fall on me if I want my stuff indexed & searchable.
Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:
@pjohanneson As I said, make it easy for vulnerable people to opt out. Like a big red button, or a banner across the interface "Your posts are currently searchable on Mastodon would you like to disable this feature?"
Patrick Johanneson ๐
@mike That's the kind of balancing act that makes me glad I'm not an instance admin.
Patrick Dirks ๐บ๐ฆ :TheCDN2:
 
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@mike are you interested in 'yes' votes that are just so ppl can stop talking about quote-posts?
Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:
@rpardee It's an upcoming feature being worked on by the Mastodon devs. I was wondering if people felt the same way I do about it. 
Darnell Clayton :verified:
@mike I am for quote posts & full text search. I have Elastic Search enabled on my #Mastodon, but you are right making it opt-in is limiting. I know on #Misskey I believe most admins have it on by default, which makes search far easier. Quote posting is already happening, itโs just on Mastodon itโs someone linking to a post. At least with a real quote posting feature the one being quoted will be alerted. 
marqle
Are people not alerted with links? I never realised that. I've done that a few times mainly for attribution. I might not have if I'd realised people didn't get a heads up for it. Why do you say opt in is limiting? I can think of a few reasons, but none of them stand assaying so I must be missing something?
Darnell Clayton :verified:
@marqle @mike Opt-in is the correct call, but it does limit what is searchable on #Mastodon. #Misskey is opt-in as well, but the culture there seems to embrace being searchable more so than Mastodon. A classic example was when there was some drama regarding #Firefish, a search on Mastodon revealed nothing. But when I searched on Misskey I was able to obtain context for what the drama was about (even though my Misskey network is โ400 times smaller).
Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:
marqle
That's actually been my experience too. I tried the antennae too for a while but that made things even worse. It does teach you though - when Twitter pretended it was showing you the whole picture by assorting information according to its priorities - it was doing nothing of the sort. It's one of the most cherished myths of modern times - that social media gives us the whole picture - but it is just a myth. No one has time to see the whole picture.
marqle
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Amandine B (She/Her)
@mike I quote posts already manually and I tag the original profile that posted the quoted thing. Sometimes I want to give context about why something matters to me. |
Gregory's Server
@mike
Do you have something I can reference for context before voting?