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mnl mnl mnl mnl mnl

@hrefna @aburka which like, you want our money and not care about any of our feedback? that's really not the point.

Like 18 Aug 2023 at 14:23 | Wall-to-wall | Open on hachyderm.io

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Hrefna (DHC)

@mnl

My conclusions here are basically:

1. What nivenly has as a stated goal is a member-driven co-op where individuals can and do drive change. In that model, it isn't what "nivenly does" it is what "we do," together. I'm of the view that this is admirable

2. HOWEVER they don't seem to know what they are doing in order to enable that and are hitting a lot of what I'd call "unforced errors" along the way

3. Some of those unforced errors are things I'd view as existential threats

@aburka

18 Aug 2023 at 14:29 | Open on hachyderm.io

Hrefna (DHC)

@mnl

4. The problem I am seeing is if there is sufficient dissonance between an individual's ability to drive change and the rhetoric, it is going to be a Problem™ and one I have very little patience for, and fixing that is more work than I am signing up for right now (it requires access to a member list and a lot of time).

So it comes out to the same basic conclusion—this is a litmus test—but I think I've gotten there via a different route.

@aburka

18 Aug 2023 at 14:32 | Open on hachyderm.io

mnl mnl mnl mnl mnl replied to Hrefna

@hrefna @aburka Can you elaborate on 4, especially the "individual's ability to drive change and the rhetoric", and what you are thinking of when you bring up the member list and time)?

18 Aug 2023 at 14:34 | Open on hachyderm.io