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Ned Yeung

"One of the most real scenes in modern television. Representation is so so important. We need to see the realities of living with disabilities and we need to see disabled actors featured as complex characters." - Brains and Spoons

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Cat West

@ned If we canโ€™t see them as real people, they remain โ€œotheredโ€ in society. Our loss.

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@Catawu Yep. People who are Blind, are not deaf and mentally deficient. People who are Deaf aren't going to hear better if you yell. They also aren't mentally deficient. People in wheelchairs have trouble walking. They are not deaf, blind, or mentally deficient. Nor are any of these conditions contagious - for the most part. I would like to see actual representation of Disabilities. Like Marlee Matlin. @ned

Cat West

@Tooden @ned I have seen people yell at people in wheel chairs โ€œso they can hear me.โ€

It would really help if more commercials used real people. I say that because commercials are repetitive and thatโ€™s what people need to see themselves as part of the fabric. Adjustment seems to happened quicker with repetitive representation. When schools started mainstreaming it made a difference. People learned from it. Bonding occurred. It mattered. Integration is strength.

Grumpy Penguin

@Catawu @Tooden @ned

That character - and the actor who played him - was AMAZING! Best thing about OMITB

Treating visibly disabled people as dumb infants is still a thing. Unfortunately.

Some of the carers that we have had - who really should know better - do the yelling thing... The ignore thing... The condescending thing...

It's heartbreaking ๐Ÿ˜ฟ ๐Ÿ’”

#DisabilityRights #AccessForAll

Cat West

@GrumpyPenguin @Tooden @ned I can barely imagine. My younger twin brothers were disabled in multiple ways. One completely incapacitated, the other struggled to just get through a day. I was so proud of him for what he could do. The sabotage was everywhere.

Cat West

@GrumpyPenguin @Tooden @ned Iโ€™m missing part of the thread. What is OMITB? Iโ€™ll probably do a facepalm when you tell me (of COURSE!) but until then, itโ€™s driving me cray.

Cat West

@Tooden @GrumpyPenguin @ned Ahhh! Yes, that is supposed to be available here next month!

Grumpy Penguin

@Tooden @Catawu @ned

So these shots in the post are from the first season of Only Murders In The Building.

The character is deaf, and is played by a fabulous deaf actor.

Unfortunately, given the storyline I doubt that he will appear in the third season, which is about to premiere

Apparently, the actor was allowed a huge input into the way his character was portrayed, which had a (positive) ripple effect amongst the cast and writers.

#Representation

Cat West

@GrumpyPenguin @Tooden @ned by letting the actor with the real life experience have input on his character, they literally improved the show. Iโ€™ve heard a lot of acclaim for this show and Iโ€™m looking forward to seeing it.

Typically, writers are โ€˜making upโ€™ experience they donโ€™t have in these characters, and typically they cast fully abled characters to play challenged roles.

How refreshing! I hope more of this โ€” a lot moreโ€” becomes mainstream.

Deborah

@Catawu @ned I mean, not to quibble with your intent here, which is clearly good, but as a member of โ€œthemโ€ (disabled people), trust me, itโ€™s *our* loss. Our expensive, painful, lack of access to contemporary tech & housing & privacy & legal protections & healthcare & the job market loss.

Cat West

@gnomicutterance @ned Clearly, your struggle and the loss on your side of the equation is painful. And itโ€™s unfair. Expensive. When I say โ€œour lossโ€ , I mean it as treasure unrecognized. How much we could gain from connecting. And we donโ€™t even know it. People who manage despite the challenges bring a new perspective to every level of society. We make greater progress when we include. Society is stunted from lack of fairness. One more postโ€ฆ

Cat West

@gnomicutterance @ned Making it possible for everyone who wants to to be able to work, be paid fairly, and live an independent life as much as possible, also means we have more taxpayers to improve the things we all need.

The perspective that a challenged person brings to a work environment actually improves it for everyone. Ramps, lifts, accessible counters and facilitiesโ€ฆ all are in reality, improvements.

Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)

@ned Yesโ€ฆ also not everyone who is #autistic is a savant.

Some of us look decidedly (and boringly) "normal".

Repop
@ned, now I'm curious about lip-readability by language then. I guess English has a poor ratio for that. I found people who could easily read most of what I said, if not everything. It was common back in school
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@ned it always impresses me how often characters on screen can lipread or understand sign language when they haven't got a good line of sight between them and the person talking.
It's even better in cartoons when people can use sign language with their backs to each other and still communicate perfectly.

Niko Trimmel :veriqueer:

@ned I still cant watch the new season for a few hours, now your post made me even more impatient lol

Cyclops

@ned This is so true, I can't even describe how true it is.

The Aforementioned W

@ned I remember being disappointed that a secondary deaf character in a romance novel was depicted as lip reading with perfect accuracy. Then she got her own story and it turned out she was actually confused a lot of the time. I'm not sure if the author planned it or learned better but it was pretty cool.

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@ned What great representation...
My SIL is deaf and lip reads really well, but often only picks up 50% of the conversation. I know she said the time she has felt the most alone was driving with other people in cars at night, especially with her family when she was a child because she would miss entire conversations...

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