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 Tonight I spent one hour at the corner of Cesar Chavez & Guerrero St counting driverless cars. Between 5-6pm, I counted 27 driverless cars, but only 1 appeared to have a passenger. During rush hour in #SanFrancisco, 96% of the Waymos, Cruises, and Xoops on this busy street were empty! edit: driverless cars can operate 24/7 in SF, but I've been informed that some are only taking passengers during certain hours (ie 9pm-5am). So the cars I saw today were probably not accepting any paid rides. 26 comments
@seldo that could be true. I can’t say, but some do appear to humans in the back I assumed they were passengers, but I don’t know. I’d like to be corrected if that’s the case. @davewongillies @seldo thanks for that info. I’ve been looking for more information on this, but I’m struggling to find the hard details online. I found an article from last month saying the cars can be used as taxis 24/7, but I’m struggling to find the public information for which services are allowed to charge for rides and during what times.  @docpop A first order estimate of the number of cars going to pick up people is the number of cars with passengers. But even doubling the number of passenger-initiated relocations would still keep "productive" moves below 10%. Of course, there are other reasons to continue driving besides the parking fees: 1. Acquiring more training data; 2. improving the statistics: Distance driven, distance without accident, …  @docpop Please come to my neighborhood (Sunnyside/Westwood Park), they’ve been permitted to test in our neighborhood for 3-4 years now. It’s a low-traffic, residential neighborhood with these things just driving around incessantly, empty. One of my hobbies on my daily runs/walks is to just jump in front of them and make them stop @webuiltthiscity @docpop This annoys me in the same way rental scooters left on the sidewalk annoys me. Your business plan relies on using the public commons for storing your inventory but you can't be bothered to keep from messing up the public commons n the process?  @webuiltthiscity @docpop you should run a book on when the laws are changed to make it the pedestrian's fault when they are run down by an autonomous vehicle. @webuiltthiscity @docpop Put a traffic cone on their hood. It will make them stand there, I've been told. @JohnnyThan @docpop Yes, but the chances one passes by while I have a traffic cone nearby are slim! There are a few areas around here with cones so sometimes I'll wait a few minutes to see if one passes by, but it hasn't happened yet :) @docpop I haven't seen a single driverless car with any passengers, I didn't even realize they took passengers...  @docpop Cruise is only available to the general public 10 pm - 5 am. employees and friends and family can ride outside those hours but the map is still restricted so it’s not the whole city. Also not every car is assigned to being part of the taxi fleet. Some are still mapping and testing. Waymo is still in beta. Last I heard 80,000 on the waitlist. @docpop cruise cars don’t offer public rides during the day (although I believe employees can utilize them), but waymo offers rides 24/7. I’m a regular waymo rider, AMA @docpop hello there, is there a chance you could talk to us about this 'deadheading' phenomenon on the #BBCWorldService radio, please? |
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@docpop I thought they weren't allowed to have passengers during the daytime?