As ever, disregard what a company says publicly and focus on what the legal documents says you are agreeing to when you use their product.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/7/23822907/zoom-train-ai-models-user-data-customer-consent
As ever, disregard what a company says publicly and focus on what the legal documents says you are agreeing to when you use their product. https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/7/23822907/zoom-train-ai-models-user-data-customer-consent 15 comments
@scalzi i guess they'll argue you never owned it in the first place as per their terms and condtions @carolannie @scalzi Basically this. When they can change the TOS essentially at will then they can do whatever under the cover of “using our services constitutes agreement”. They will do it without asking and only acknowledge it if they get caught…which will be difficult as the models mulch the data pretty effectively and the models are basically black holes. and based off the chatter yesterday: there are plenty of people who still think that it's e2e encrypted. It is impossible for them to both have e2e encryption and use the data per their terms, unless they are just talking about who you interact with and your account information. @scalzi @scalzi Even based on what they said in that article, they're not denying that they are using the content to train internal models. They're just not "claiming ownership." I'm sure that will be a huge relief to all the patients and healthcare providers (and HIPAA auditors) using Zoom. Because as we know, training content for LLMs could *NEVER* leak across account boundaries... 🙄 @scalzi @scalzi one thing that I found interesting besides Zoom’s AI stuff is that the ToS states anything you upload becomes theirs to do with as they please, so that means if you want to keep your IP for a image you want as a background, don’t upload it. @scalzi The paragraph in the article says that says Zoom added the statement: "“Notwithstanding the above, Zoom will not use audio, video or chat Customer Content to train our artificial intelligence models without your consent.” I don't see that in the Zoom ToS. Also fwiw I got a note from my Univ legal dept that the terms that the Univ has with Zoom are different and supersede the online 'regular' ToS |
@scalzi Zoom has, since it’s inception, shown itself to be a pretty terrible company