 Fuck Facebook and NFT. The world hasn't seen a network quite like Fediverse. Such networks need a name and a definition, and they STOLE it from us. They played you like a goddamn fiddle. 40 comments
@drq Not sure about metaverse (not even sure about its definition), but we are definitely the most decentralyzed web that exists. I host my own f*ing server/instance/node, and talking to any other node over a protocol that many programs understand. How the fuck can anyone think a huge monopoly money-based write-only storage be the future? @ariel @drq It makes sense for certain things like "digital money" aka BTC, XMR and so on. But basing the web on top of it? Makes same (none) sense that sticking a website into an email, or building a desktop program consisting on a browser with a website.  @drq But it has seen very similar ones, eg. SMTP and XMPP. You can call it Web 3.0 if youbwant but we're merely getting back to where we were in the 90s. Since most of the web has been regressing towards mainframe age during the last decade, you could call this a success. But we have ways to go. @wolf480pl xmpp is homogenous. No node is different in function and presentation from another node. Fediverse is WILDLY heterogenous. Those are on completely different levels. @wolf480pl @wolf480pl anyway, that's why Fediverse is different and why it's first of its kind. @drq XMPP isn't all that homogenous - the core protocol may be the same for everyone, but different servers implement different sets of extensions, and then there are components like MUC, gateways to other protocols, HTTP upload, videobridges, etc., each of which does something different, and different implementations of each of those vary noticeably too. There is also some variety across clients. Not as much as in case of Fedi - AFAIK Movim is the only one which tried doing a non-IM UI. @wolf480pl For XMPP, trying to get heterogenous is more of a hinderance, because it's not explicit and just introduces mess without any real benefits. XMPP is better when everyoune is on the same page as to what extensions we support and what we don't, which client we use, which supports the extensions we use, etc. @wolf480pl If we start switching XMPP extensions on and off, the whole becomes less than the sum of its parts. Not so with the Fediverse. @drq @wolf480pl Indeed, I think of federating phone systems...which looks nothing like a mastadon or a friendica.   I stand by this type of entities needing a definition because eventually, we will have to move on. Something like Fediverse but better will emerge, maybe with different protocol, maybe with different federation principle (ask @cwebber about their work on CapTP or @mike about what he does with Zot), but inevitably so. It will be similar in decentralization, opennes and empowerment, but it won't be The Fediverse, it will be something else, albeit from the same family of networks.  @uu совершенно верно. Но эволюция это процесс. Я ищу определение ее продукта конкретно в этом направлении. The dividing line (AFAICT) is post-scarcity vs artificial scarcity. The AS fuckers grabbed the "web3" name because they have lots of money. But we don't need lots of money to survive and they do, so we'll win as soon as they run out of suckers.  Forget Metaverse. Who wants to be meta with the Zuck there anyway? #Fediverse is the #PeopleVerse Web3? Why version this thing, and pretend that is meaningful? We have a mess anyway where it is all blurry. Fediverse offers us a beautiful and intricate #SocialFabric. We weave web here. 🎉 Happy #Fedivolution2022 🚀 @uu кто-то из нас однозначно отправляется на кладбище. На их стороне - ресурсы и пиар. На нашей - адаптивность и способность к самоисцелению. Убьем, всенепременно. Ну или умрем, пытаясь.  @drq |
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@drq люди совсем ебанулись со своим NFT уже...